[ SECRET POST #2956 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2956 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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14. [ WARNING for rape ]





















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

...not really?

In terms of sex and rape the show is far more gratuitous. A lot of the rape in the books is mentioned offscreen whereas in the show we have Jaime raping Cersei or the scene where the deserters are raping Craster's wives.

[sarillia]

That scene with Jaime and Cersei was definitely worse in the show, but it bugs me that people keep saying it was 100% consensual in the book. She was telling him to stop. Yes, her objection was "not here!" and not an objection to having sex with him at all, but she was still telling him to stop and he didn't.

[(Anonymous)]

okay, but in the book she was also the one who was grabbing his cock and initiating the sex; it definitely wasn't him forcing himself on her.

[herpymcderp]

Uhhh. No. That's not really true- there are just as many graphic depictions of rape in the books plus offhand mentions. However, given the content of the thread I don't really think it's best to go digging for examples.

And it's still worth mentioning that the Jaime/Cersei scene was controversial (regardless of how many interpreted it) with the creators claiming that wasn't meant to be a rape scene. But, again, not an argument worth rehashing since anyone might find something like that triggering.

[(Anonymous)]

You can't just say "there are just as many graphic depictions of rape" and then refuse to back that up.

[herpymcderp]

I'm thinking specifically of three scenes involving the Dothraki in the early books, one involving several soldiers and a random peasant woman, and one throwaway scene during one long-winded description of the war aftermath.

There are honestly probably more that I'm forgetting, since it's been a while for me.

If you want to throw Dani's wedding night on the pile (which some people do) there's another one for you right there.

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DA

Dany's ordeal with Drogo is probably the only graphically described rape scene in the books. Virtually every other mention of rape is described in a way like "so-and-so was raped by 50 men" and that's about it. A far cry from actual 5 minute scenes of rape filmed on screen featuring porn stars.

This series (both versions) obsession with rape is abhorrent and lazy, but I'll take the books over the show.