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Considering he's an elf (and how long Maedhros lasted), I'm guessing weeks. I like to think he was mostly dead by the time he even told Sauron where the Dwarven rings were.

I just think he's a really interesting character. He both wants to escape his family history and surpass it. He wants to help his people so badly that he ends up being decieved (and ultimately he does save them since without the one ring Sauron would likely not have been fully defeated).

I have not seen that article before. I will have to check it out.

I agree about Celebrimbor. I think a lot of the Feanorians are interesting in the complicated position they find themselves. Maedhros and Maglor are very good Elves but bound by their Oath and do terrible things. Feanor is the brightest and best Elf there is -- that's almost universally acknowledged -- and yet his hubris dooms all the Noldor. They all must've been magnetic. Celgorm (or Curufin, can't remember which) manages to sweet-talk the Elves of Nargothrond into betraying Beloved Finrod, and Huan clearly loved his lord. And yet, they're probably the worst of the bunch. Celebrimbor being in Nargothrond at that time is such a fascinating story in its own right. He must've been there when the dragon attacked.

The Feanorians are fascinating. I tend to like the Sindar and Finolfin's line more but I do think the Feanorians are very interesting. I just wish Feanorian apologists would acknowledge their bad sides and not excuse their darker deeds. It makes them less interesting really.

I hope you like the article. If you do, I find that the author has a lot of insightful things to say about Tolkien.

Do you have any recs on Sauron/Celebrimbor. It sounds like my tastes would be more in line with yours than not with regards to the creepy part of their relationship.

I'll have to look back over the fics I have the links to and find the creepy ones. There are some creepy ones and some straight up porny ones. I'll post them tomorrow.

I agree that the Feanorians are interesting and the apologists are annoying. Characters with layers are more interesting. I tend to think that Feanor is the worst of them, that Maedhros and Maglor honestly try to escape the oath but can't (and that Maedhros goes through stuff even worse than Celebrimbor), and that the rest are somewhere in the middle. Celebrimbor is even more interesting to me because he escapes the oath and actually refuses to go with his father and does not want to be what is family does, and yet in a lot of ways he makes the rings precisely because he is a Feanorian and wants to be as good as Feanor.

Cool, thanks!

I have so many questions about Feanor that all stem from Finwe. Like, Finwe is supposed to favor Feanor above all. What does that mean with regards to how he raised Fingolfin and Finarfin and their sisters? How could Feanor doubt his father's devotion to him? Was Finwe really ignorant of the growing tension between his sons? Did he do anything about it? I just . . . I would have such a better understanding of the whole Noldor rift if I knew more about what kind of father Finwe was -- what kind of king he was. The only thing we really know about him is that he wanted a bunch of kids and he loved Feanor best.

I do think the psychology of losing his mother explains a lot of Feanor's fears (which is fascinating in itself) but Finwe really should've stepped up and done something. He seems so passive in the narrative.

But, I agree about Feanor being the "worst" of them. He seems so self-centered in a lot of ways. He clearly loves his father but he's also possessive and jealous of that love. He shows no emotion when he basically burns one of his sons alive and he betrays his brother, who just committed a terrible crime at Feanor's bidding. And he has no idea what kind of fate he has unleashed upon his sons. He doesn't think it through, and yet he is consistently the beloved of the Noldor.

I find fics that explore his time in Mandos -- or anything that forces him to confront his actions -- to be endlessly fascinating.

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