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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-07 04:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2957 ]


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Re: Questions?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
A while ago I think a talk show host or something like that was asked why she was for gay marriage but not polygamy; she dodged the question. I'm for gay marriage, but have wondered myself why I'm not okay with polygamy. I know there's a lot of creepy polygamist cults and stuff, but there's also people who are in relationships with more than one person (and all 3+ parties are happy).

Re: Questions?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know.

IMO as long as everyone in a polyamoric relationship is communative and aware of the other relationships, I don't have an issue.

But I also think people being monogamous for life as the standard is kinda ridiculous, so take that as you will.
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Re: Questions?

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-02-07 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm of two minds on this. Because on the one hand I do believe there are people that are not monogamous, and I think honesty is so much better than people lying and cheating. But on the other hand, in practice so much of poly is solely about men marrying multiple women (and in contexts where it is not seen as okay for women to do the same) and tied in with a whole bunch of sexism and patriarchy. So I'm not sure I'm against the idea of it being illegal for now even if I do believe that there are people who are legitimately polygamous (and even have considered it myself on occasion).
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Re: Questions?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-02-07 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I don't really care if people want to have relationships with one or ten, but it seems like the majority here and around the world are 1 guy = multiple girl, and the women all seem kind of...i dunno.

Like they're 'lucky' to have a tenth of this guy's attention and him having all this support and warm bodies is how it *should* be. Which, yes, broad brush, but it kind of creeps me out.

Maybe if it weren't some formal thing, but just random living, i wouldn't feel that way.
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Re: Questions?

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-02-08 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
this, plus tax and other legal issues that work much better with just two people, are why I'm on the fence about having legalized poly marriage.

but when I think about the best solution it really goes back to "why is our government regulating marriage at all?"...

Re: Questions?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think there's a problem with polygamy per se, but I think it does lead to a lot more legal obstacles. If more than two people can marry, where's the line? Three people in a single union? Four? Do they all love one another sexually, or is it one person with multiple partners (and does that make a difference)? If they have kids, how will custody cases work? What about taxing issues?

Again, I think if everyone is happy, consenting, and adult, do as you like. But I don't think the Western marriage as a legal institution can currently accommodate multi partner relationships, and I'm not sure it should. Either we rehaul marriage completely, or make it not a legal institution at all, or polygamists settle for only one relationship being legally recognized as marriage and the others can be non-legally recognized marriage. It's not a moral issue at all, it's just about the practicalities of the legal institution.

Re: Questions?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I always find myself running up against questions about how things like spousal benefits, employer-provided health insurance, and various next-of-kin rights would work and then my head hurts.

I realize that some of these things are already issues even without legal plural marriage, like how some policies allow you to add adult relatives who are not your spouse or child, or if a widowed/otherwise unmarried person winds up unconscious in the hospital and his/her children can't agree on what to do then we've got a problem on our hands, but poly marriage just seems like it would make it all more even complicated.
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Re: Questions?

[personal profile] making_excuses 2015-02-07 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I am for polygamy as a relationship status, just like any other kind of relationships: If everyone involved wants to be in it and are old enough to consent who am I to judge.

Marriage as an institution is not a union of love, it is a union of economics, taxes and so on and should only be between two people as such. If you are thinking about marriages recognized by the state, if you want to get married and not get the benefits the state gives married people go wild for all I care.

Did that make sense?
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Re: Questions?

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-02-07 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like being for or against it doesn't change it. It's not like their feelings will change just because of your opinion. What matters most is the legal treatment, and honestly, if a corporation can have a gazillion shareholders, I don't see why a marriage can't.
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Re: Questions?

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-08 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with poly. But then, I know tons of people in various relationship configurations who are very happy that way.

Now, "consensual" incest marriage, now THAT can get me ranting for a million years.

--Rogan

What about polyandry?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Are you okay with that? If so, it might just be a holdover from thinking about the cult/harem thing. Like, you're okay with polyamory where everyone is an equal partner, but not with the unequal relationship of one guy with many wives.

Re: Questions?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
tbh I believe a committed relationship is between two people (and I'm gay), but besides my personal opinions, the implications of group marriage would involve such an legal overhaul that it's not even thinkable for the foreseeable future.