[ SECRET POST #2958 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2958 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Either way, it was his own stupidity that lead directly to his death.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you feel that way about all outdoors people? Hikers, mountain climbers, etc.? If they die, they deserved it, and such?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

That seems like a really unfair question, given that "he died because of his stupidity" is close to "he deserved to die" but still notably distinct from it, and also because... I mean... why the hell would you think AYRT would think that, given that we're talking about a specific cases where someone made horribly poor choices based on a complete lack of knowledge despite multiple people warning him not to? Do you think this guy is representative of outdoor people generally?

[dethtoll]

what the hell is this question

[a_potato]

...huh?

He didn't die because he was an "outdoor person." He died because he neither did the research nor took the precautions necessary for him to survive in an extreme environment.

[purpleseas]

There's a huge difference between an trained, knowledgeable outdoors person taking a calculated risk and running into trouble anyway and a complete newb blundering into an easily avoidable death. If you look into mountaineering on Everest for an extreme example, it's the difference between Rob Hall, who'd guided 39 people up and down the mountain but died in the 1996 blizzard disaster, and Shriya Shah-Klorfine, who had never climbed a mountain before but was ~following her dreams~ with very little training, substandard equipment and a guiding company with zero experience, and died there after being told umpteen times to turn back or she would die. Neither deserved to die, but one has a little more culpability than the other.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Of course he didn't deserve to die, but he *wasn't* an outdoors person, that's kind of the point. If he'd paid any attention to the people who were, he wouldn't have made such poor choices that had such awful consequences.

Stop twisting people's words.

[caerbannog]

There's a major difference between dying because of one's own (stupid) decisions and deserving to die.

Did he deserve to die? Nope
Did he die because of his own stupid decisions? Yes
Does it suck that he died? Yes, feel a bit bad for him
Am I sympathetic? Not really, to his family and friends yes. Not to him.

(Ps. Please please please do your research and listen to advice before going off on wilderness adventures! Accidents happen and they're more likely to happen if you're not prepared! Try to avoid roughing it out unless you have lots of experience!)