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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-08 03:20 pm

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Re: fandom frustration

(Anonymous) 2015-02-09 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, tabling at conventions can be super exhausting. I have friends who are constantly going to cons and I don't understand how they do it. You need to know about it months to a year ahead of time, the costs of a table, travel costs, merchandise costs... and a hell of a lot more things I need to do before I even get to the convention that take up time.

Then you are there anywhere from 2-4 days. Talking to people all day (which exhausts me since I'm a natural introvert) and not eating much because there's no official break time for people with tables.

Like I always have a blast running a table and I prefer it to being just an attendee, but it is DAMN exhausting.
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Re: fandom frustration

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-09 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Oh lord, yeah, I know/knew some folks who conned all the time. I don't know what they're made of.

I manage to get by because I am very picky about how I pick my cons. For instance, this year, the only two I know for certain I'll do is a small comics con that I've done well at four four years running, and where the tables are very cheap. (They've also given me a free table in the past because it was a weirdly shaped, weirdly positioned one that nobody wanted, only for it to turn out everyone know associates me with that table.) The other is a DID con, which also has a free table because I'm a speaker. It'll still cost a wad, on account of being far away, but I'll be the only comics guy there and have been meaning to travel there a while.

I also only do two-day cons, AT MOST. I prefer one. The DID con is going to be intense, because it'll be for THREE. That way, I can recuperate afterward.

And I ALWAYS pack a lunch and snacks for every day I'm there. No way am I flubbing my meal plan because of a con. I need that energy!

--Rogan

Re: fandom frustration

(Anonymous) 2015-02-09 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I've never been to a one day convention but then I don't always do small conventions because I never know if they'll be worth it. I would love to do more small cons but my problem is I know I need to make sales to make up the costs, and I'm more likely to do that at larger conventions that are multiple day (I still haven't done HUGE conventions but those are the ones you need to book well in advance so I haven't gotten the chance yet.)

Are there and cons you would recommend?

And haha I always have food or a friend who will get me some, but I still end up often not eating because I'm busy talking to people. It often takes me forever to eat because every time I take a bite, someone comes around.
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Re: fandom frustration

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-09 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, depends, what you selling?

I'm in kinda a weird position in most comic cons because I have a niche genre: educational mental health comics. So big cons are actually BAD for me, because nobody comes to SDCC to buy a comic about dissociation, you know what I mean? Also, because my comics are educational, I want as many people to get them as possible, so I sell them as CHEAPLY as possible. None of my comics cost more than $5 these days. One day, I hope to have a comic with fancy things like a spine or color, but not for a while.

Even if I were to completely sell out of every comic I can carry, I would not make more than $300. So I focus mostly on axing my overhead and getting into the cheapest cons I can, because if I only have to shell out $20 for a table and it's within walking distance, well then, I can afford to gamble. But I could never afford to go to, say, SPX. I literally COULD NOT make back the cost of going!

This means I often end up at weird little podunk cons purely because I manage to schmooze my way in at the last minute, hitch a ride, or find crashspace that makes it affordable for me to go.

Since I'm recovering from an eating disorder, I'm on a pretty strict meal plan, and have strict hours. Another system member WILL force-feed me if I try and resist. If new people come by, well, I just have to mumble at them through a face full of sandwich.

--Rogan

Re: fandom frustration

(Anonymous) 2015-02-09 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
I mostly sell my artwork and occasionally books, I'm usually sell stuff between the $5 to 20 dollar range, my prices never go too high because I'm usually mainly trying to make back table and travel costs.

I sell fairly well, I have enough of a following that people come to conventions to see me but I haven't done anything significant enough that a convention would invite me for free (well I did get one invite once, but it was for a small convention that was rather far from me, and getting into the convention for free wouldn't really have made a difference with all those travel costs.)

I just never know where to go since I'm not hugely into the convention scene, a lot of the stuff I had recommended to me for this year I missed the deadline for, and people ask me if I'm going to cons all the time and I'm just like "I don't know! I'll try!" Plus I never want to go through the exhaustion mentioned earlier if it's not going to be worth it.

I've never been to a convention with super cheap tables though and I'd love to try one, for some reason even our "independent comics" convention here is SUPER expensive on table costs. It sucks.
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Re: fandom frustration

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-09 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, that does suck. At least I have a sort of aesthetic that the zinesters and hipsters can enjoy; zine fairs are the CHEAPEST fairs on earth, I swear. I was at one con where ALL the tables were free, bless 'em.

That was Ephemera Zinefest, which was in Kentucky and I did fantastically at, for such a short tiny con (it was maybe five hours total). MICE is my standby; tables these days cost $50, I think? That's in Boston, a two-day con. I also did SPACE in Columbus, OH. That was $50 for a two-day table, and even though I had to cough up for bus fare and a hostel room, I made all that back, so totally worth it.

Those have been my big successes so far.

It helps that I know a lot of comics creators in Boston, so I am pretty well hooked in to the New England comics con scene, and can pretty quickly get involved. (And take tables from last-minute cancels, ohoho!)

Since you're doing art and stuff, you might see it worthwhile to do more general geek cons--if you're in New England, Conbust might be worth checking out, or Paint and Pixel or MECAF.

--Rogan