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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-09 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2959 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2959 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't feel like that was really the Incredibles message, though? That was what Syndrome said, and Mr. Incredible doesn't want to celebrate mediocrity, but in the end the message I got was "Don't just try and blend in, embrace what makes you different."

(Anonymous) 2015-02-10 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
celebrating mediocrity is bullshit anyway. The way they hand out trophies for trying hard doesn't teach anyone anything other than "there's no need to try harder than you already do"

(Anonymous) 2015-02-10 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
that...that isn't what it teaches at all. there have been whole studies ...jesus you are dick. did no one pat yer ass enough for being smarty pants douche?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-10 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
This is what the movie was trying to say, that handing out too many trophies only celebrates mediocrity.

I just don't buy it. It's just sour grapes from those on top who got used to being the only ones getting all the attention.

It's like the ones who moan each year that exams are getting easier because the test scores rise. So is the 100m getting shorter then? Because people keep doing that in shorter time as well.

Celebrating the achievements of many doesn't devalue anything.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, what it mostly teaches is low self esteem and trust issues.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-10 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
+1 I agree with you; that wasn't the message I took from the movie. The villain doesn't usually spout the moral of the movie, either, so I'm not sure why some people are taking that statement as the central message.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-02-10 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't just Syndrome who said it - Dash said it too, but again, I don't think that was the message. Dash was angry and frustrated about how he couldn't do what he wanted, and was lashing out.

I agree that the message is that you shouldn't have to hide what you are and should use your talents for the best.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-10 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It was the mother who said it to Dash. The villain just repeated it.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-10 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah... if there's a big generic message in that movie, it's more along the lines of "Don't hide your light under a bushel." But, I'd say the movie is as much about striking the right balance between personal freedom and responsibility as anything. At the end of the day, Bob and Helen are the main characters. Bob's having a midlife crisis and Helen's losing sight of her own goals and talents while trying to keep the family together. By the end of the movie, they learn to be true to themselves and keep sight of what's important to them.