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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-10 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2960 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2960 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes though, you can tell when the character's opinions support/are a mouthpiece for the author's. Why do so many people find this so hard to understand?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
And how do you tell, exactly? Because it seems like, a lot of times, iit's based on how teed off a reader or viewer is instead of anything objective. E.g. the fans of the original BSG who freaked out and decided that Ron Moore personally supported rape because a character was almost rraped on new BSG.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-11 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Um, let me put it this way. When Piers Anthony had just ONE underage female protagonist getting into a sexual relationship with an adult man, it could be passed as character. When it leaked into EVERY SERIES HE WROTE, including one involving a man fucking a five year old, that's when it starts reflecting on the author.

--Rogan

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
That's all well and good, but I think that's a bit different from having a single bratty, insecure teenage character express an irrational opinion about her last name.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-11 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, totally. I was just saying, it's not THAT hard to tell the difference between an author's beliefs and their characters, often. I haven't read these books so can't really weigh in on them directly.

--Rogan

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
It's the job of a writer to create rich and varied characters with differing outlooks and opinions. If all the characters the writer creates have the same outlooks and views on life and society them it might be that either the writer is projecting their personal povs onto the characters. Or perhaps they are just limited. Then your hypothesis might have merit.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-11 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's that simple. There can be varied outlooks but a sense that the author thinks one of them is right and the rest are wrong. I don't really understand where the assumption that all the characters have to think the same way for any of them to be authorial mouthpieces comes from.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I've noticed that people only call "author using character as a mouthpiece" when the character is saying something that they don't agree with...
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-11 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, nah. I'm a bit of a utopian anarchist, but let me tell you, I would be happy NEVER to read another anarchist mouthpiece character again.

--Rogan