[ SECRET POST #2960 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2960 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

why do you feel so entitled to fanauthors' works though?

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you feel entitled to the books on your bookshelf?

[(Anonymous)]

lmao

[(Anonymous)]

Well? Why can't I retract something I put up on Amazon Singles if I don't want it out there anymore? It's my work, shouldn't I be able to do what I want with it?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I have no idea about Amazon, but my books are all under contract for a specific timeframe.

If I decide not to renew that contract for whatever reason, then my obligation with that publisher and that book ends, and the book is removed from distribution.

I have no idea why Amazon would differ when it comes to your own original copyrighted work.

[(Anonymous)]

But it's still out there. The book doesn't go away. It will never go away. Some day, it'll even be in the public domain, and then people who aren't you can do whatever they want with it.

The point is, why shouldn't I be able to take back ebooks? The technology exists. If I don't want those books out there anymore, why shouldn't I be able to ask that Amazon remove those copies from the readers of everyone who downloaded them?

[lb_lee]

Dude, this ain't rocket science. Once someone OWNS a copy of a story, it's THEIR PROPRERTY. Even if you made the book, you sold/gave it to them, and you can't go and steal it back, anymore than you can go and steal a gift you gave someone.

Same if you download a fic. It is now your digital property. Removing a fic from a public website IS NOT the same. It's the difference between removing my book from my personal library and breaking into someone else's library to steal their copy.

--Rogan

[(Anonymous)]

DA

"It is now your digital property."

Uh, no. That's the problem people have with purchasing digital items.

What you're purchasing is a license to access, not the item itself.

[lb_lee]

No, I bought THE ITEM. After paying, I was given a digital file to download to my computer, and only THEN could I open and read those comics. I didn't buy a license to access, I bought a FILE.

--Rogan

[(Anonymous)]

Please go and inform yourself about digital licenses.

You did not buy the item. There IS no item. You bought a license to access that file. If you access that file (be it on your computer or otherwise) should that license be revoked, you are breaching the terms of your purchase agreement.

[(Anonymous)]

The other anon is right: you can't buy online media, you can only buy the right to access to it and only in the way they want you to access to it.
(Do you know some ebooks include protections not just so it can't be copied but to prevent the use of text-to-voice software? Because screw people with disabilities, they can buy access to the more expensive audiobook instead.)

[lb_lee]

That is incredibly gross to me. Like, obviously I was woefully ignorant, and I'm sorry to have been an ignorant dumbass but... EURGH. Preventing text-to-voice? That's just being a total dickbag.

Part of it is I sell my own ebooks, and it never occurred to me that I was doing anything other than... well, selling digital equivalents of the paper comics. Like, I heard about the Amazon thing, but I thought it was totally disgusting.

Just... ugh. UGH. Thanks for the explanation, just UGH.

--Rogan

[(Anonymous)]

No dude, that's not true at all. That's why there was a whole kerfluffle with people's ebooks being taken back a while ago. People were mad, but it was perfectly legal.

[lb_lee]

I remember that, and I understand why it happened, but I still thought it was a TERRIBLE move on Amazon's part. Legal, maybe, but that doesn't mean I agree with it, and that's part of why I haven't bought an e-reader. My computer is old and crappy, but once I download a file, nobody can take it back.

--Rogan