[ SECRET POST #2965 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2965 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's also super fun to see guys' reactions to being called a bitch.

Just like it's super fun to see a straight person's reaction to being called a fag, or to see the reaction of a person without an intellectual disability to being called a retard, right? (Spoiler alert: None of those things are actually super fun.)

By calling men bitches, you're insulting them for being insufficiently masculine, which just reinforces the idea that masculinity/maleness is good and femininity/femaleness is bad. That's bullshit.

[(Anonymous)]

This is kind of a apples to orange example here. It sounds like the commenter is using "bitch" as a re-appropriation thing. Like, reclaiming a word and then throwing it back out there in a way that subverts the original (slang) meaning.

Bitch doesn't always mean insufficiently masculine. In fact, I rarely see it used that way. Bitch can be a term of affection. It can mean that a person is fussy or mean. It can be used as a shout-out to someone's fabulousness, too, instead of using the term diva.

[(Anonymous)]

Who pissed in your coffee?

[othellia]

By calling men bitches, you're insulting them for being insufficiently masculine

No, I'm insulting them for being a grumpy asshole.

[otakugal15]

Yup.

[(Anonymous)]

and yet here you are using "grumpy asshole" in place of it perfectly well, without any of the misogynistic ties

[(Anonymous)]

I think part of three point is that it doesn't have to be misogynistic, kind of like how "queer" doesn't have to be a slur. I mean, there's even a feminist magazine called Bitch.

I think it's usually always better to work on changing a word, either to make it more broad or less offensive, then it is to try to censor it. Censoring almost never works.

[(Anonymous)]

do you really need the difference between reclaiming slurs and continuing to use slurs as pejoratives spelled out for you?

[othellia]

But "grumpy assholes" doesn't fully get across the piss-ant mentality that I want to convey.

Also, you - as (quite possibly) a woman - say the term is always inherently misogynistic. I as a woman say it is not. I believe we are at an impasse.