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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-01-06 06:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #366 ]


⌈ Secret Post #366 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2008-01-07 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
FFVIII wasn't really a shining example of story-telling anyway.

I've heard the same rumor about Basch being the main character. If it's true that Square imposed these restrictions on them, then I suppose I should cut the game more slack. But why would they restrict Vayne's development?

And what makes Nomura characters worse than any other character? For god's sakes, he just DESIGNS them. Yoshinori Kitase is the director of most of those games if I remember right. Hold your gripes with him or the scenario writer, not the character designer.

[identity profile] shahrizai.livejournal.com 2008-01-07 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
And what makes Nomura characters worse than any other character? For god's sakes, he just DESIGNS them. Yoshinori Kitase is the director of most of those games if I remember right. Hold your gripes with him or the scenario writer, not the character designer.

His characters fall into similar stereotypes in almost every Nomura-designed game, and if it's the scenario writer or director that demands it every time, then he gets a pass, but many of those stereotypes are absent in the Amano and Yoshida games. But Vincent/Auron quiet, tragic bishie, Yuffie/Selphie/Rikku (people try to group Penelo in there, but she's been hit by the cluestick and seems to have a lot more common sense than these 3), Cloud/Squall emo, Aeris/Rinoa/Yuna gentle, soft girl...

Well, okay, I'm a bit sick of his art style too. I prefer Basch's potholder anyway. ;) But to each their own!

[identity profile] parron.livejournal.com 2008-01-07 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
But Vincent/Auron quiet, tragic bishie, Yuffie/Selphie/Rikku (people try to group Penelo in there, but she's been hit by the cluestick and seems to have a lot more common sense than these 3), Cloud/Squall emo, Aeris/Rinoa/Yuna gentle, soft girl...

Basch/Balthier the tragic/quiet bishie, Fran the fanservice, Ashe the emo boy, Vaan the cheerful thief, Penelo the young fanservice/gentle soft magic user.... yes, 12 is really far from those stereotypes!

Personally? Here's what I think. There is no clue stick that needs to hit Rikku et all - she's a smart girl. But since there's more to her personality than the fact that she's perceptive and intelligent (perhaps not in a book sense, but there's more than one kind in the world), it's easy to ignore. Penelo? No personality to speak of, so, "oh! she's smart!" becomes better praise for her.

I really despise people that put down one character to elevate another like that. Every character in every FF ever is a stereotype to a degree - some more so than others, granted. But to claim that 12 has the only mature, unique characters? It's fine that you like them, but don't be silly about it.