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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-21 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2971 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
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Yeah, it was two years!

I think it has a lot to do with how the canon treats them both.

Eridan is treated more by the story like a sad loser doing loser-y things that sadly got his friends killed, while Gamzee was portrayed outright monstruously regarding Terezi, what with Karkat and Kanaya staring on in horror when they see him hurting her.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-02-22 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
The bit about Gam and Terezi is honestly pretty fuzzy to me, plus iirc it was a kismesissitude, so there would obviously be some level of bad behavior there. It did fuck Terezi up pretty bad, though, now that I think about it...

Still, I don't like the "woobify Eridan" attitude. He was a sad loser and being a sad loser isn't an excuse to do what he did. He didn't accidentally "get his friends killed"; he straight-up shot them in the chest with a giant gun! Including the girl he was supposed to have flushed feelings for!

Gam isn't blameless by any means, but his actions didn't come about from self-pity and teenagey angst; they actually happened because of his mental state and not having access to the drug that calms him down. I can totally get why people don't like him, but it's hard for me to hold him to the same level of responsibility as Eridan.

Eridan has (or had?) a big fangirl base, though, right? That's probably part of it. I never saw the appeal myself, but it is kind of amazing how someone being popularly attractive changes the way fandom perceives their actions.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, just to clarify: personally, I think Eridan IS a terrible person and I do not think anything really excuses his actions. Everyone on that meteor was just as scared as he was, but they didn't all go "yes, the right decision here is to ditch everyone and go join Jack Noir!!" And what he did to Feferi! D:

And what bothers me the most is that he was in a position to really get everyone ahead, and not only did he waste it, but actively sabotaged it.

I think that the deal with Gamzee, fanwise, is that we don't really get him on the same level as the other characters. Like Hussie said, he is an unknowable clown with motives unknown. To what degree is he conscious of what he's doing, how willingly is he serving Lord English, etc. (I do feel sorry for him, though. I miss drugged Gamzee. :( He was a nice dude.)

And yeah, Eridan does have his following because purple and capes and- and purple? vov