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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-22 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2972 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I can understand converting from one denomination of Christianity to another... because it's still like, the same religion, the difference is in the details. And unless you're really invested in the dogma, church is church.

But from atheism suddenly to Christianity? That seems a lot more jarring. No religion to suddenly everyone has one. idk.

My parents were like yours though, I think. They tried to encourage us to find our own faiths, and didn't bring us to church or anything, but encouraged us to learn about religions. We all ended up atheist, but you know, I like that we got there on our own.
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[personal profile] brooms 2015-02-22 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
But from atheism suddenly to Christianity? That seems a lot more jarring. No religion to suddenly everyone has one. idk.

i'm prob assuming too much, but i did assume op actually meant agnosticism.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You know you can be both agnostic and an atheist at the same time? And that that is actually the case for most atheists and theists -- that they're agnostic?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
uhh I think you're trying to split hairs here with your own personal definitions, ones that no one else uses...

(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you for real?! Those are the official definitions.

On the other hand, probably a case of don't feed the trolls? I hope.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol I don't think you get to tell atheists and Christians that they are actually agnostic.

(and yes, an atheist is still an atheist even if they are humor that there might be some remote possibility that a god or gods could exist, if they still reject the belief as being unfounded and don't have an active belief in the supernatural themselves)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
No? The official definition of agnosticism as a philosophical position is that the person holding it neither believes nor disbelieves in a higher power. An atheist disbelieves and a theist believes. Neither one can be agnostic.
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[personal profile] brooms 2015-02-22 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
yes. but claiming to be an atheist is a lot more radical. it involves active philosophical rejection of supernatural beliefs.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-22 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I love your wording. top kek
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2015-02-23 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Only if you have the worst possible understanding of epistemology and are choosing the definition of the word based on the fact you don't want to be called an atheist.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
You're the one who clearly doesn't understand the terminology as it's commonly used here
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-02-23 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
because it's still like, the same religion, the difference is in the details.

Lol. Don't tell that to my Catholic ex. (We didn't date for very long...)

I went to a couple really relaxed churches, one of which I wouldn't even qualify as a "church", I don't think. Didn't have a lot of dogma growing up, I think, compared to some of my peers.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-23 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
You don't want to say that to certain kinds of Protestants either. I don't know how many times I've told my brother that Catholics are in fact Christian.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-02-23 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
True!

It's frustrating to me how different denominations want to think they are the One True ChristianityTM. I'm glad the only denomination I've ever identified with is Quakerism, which arguably isn't a denomination at all, and I'm quite content to just be nondenominational right now. People are really good at missing the forest for the trees (their own special trees which are of course the only true and right trees).
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-23 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah even at my most wtf fundie-est I preferred to be nondenominational and I never got into telling other people that they're not True Christians because I always thought that was between them and Jesus.