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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-24 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2974 ]


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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-02-25 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, Dragon Age Anders? He didn't strike me as mentally ill. He has a backstory that sort of makes things understandable, but he's a fanatic and a terrorist.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-02-25 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
This is what Hepler said:

"As the writer of Anders, and many other aspects of DAII, I found this an interesting and thoughtful examination of what we tried to do with the game. I do find it odd, though, that Anders is not discussed in regards to the treatment of the mentally ill. For me, that is primarily what his relationship is about — the difficulties of loving and trying to help someone who struggles with a part of himself that he cannot control and may never be able to control. It is certainly the experience I drew from when writing him, and I think it uses the fantasy setting in the way I most prefer to see — providing a magical metaphor for exploring real-world problems. To me, this is the central feature of his character — not whether he is gay or straight, but the inner demons (personified as Justice/Vengeance), which both he and you, as his lover, must struggle against every day."

http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=4823

Re: OP

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-02-25 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
And this is why we have death of the author, writers trying to turn sow's ears into silk purses after the fact because we just didn't approach their work with the right interpretation in hand.

No Helper, perhaps we didn't go there with Anders because Bioware gave us a dozen other characters driven mad by Lovecraftian magic. About the only improvement you brought to that particular theme and variation was ditching the racism and replacing the purple prose with stilted scenery chewing with all the grace of a golem in a china shop. And in those dozen examples, you didn't offer anything that wasn't the standard fantasy, power corrupts BULLSHIT. After the circus parade of everything from the serial killer, to the demon possessed, to the repressed-memory case, to a half-dozen flavors of addiction, you expect us to treat your grotesque oversimplification of religion, prejudice, and terrorism as serious business with a realistic mental illness subtext?

Perhaps you might want to consider that actually exploring these complex issues in a fantastic fiction narrative might require cutting away the dead weight of a game system that rewards the player for mass homicide.
Edited 2015-02-25 04:55 (UTC)
lb_lee: Raige making a horrified face. (D:)

Re: OP

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-26 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ehnnngh. I really hate the whole "it's so hard to love someone with mental illness" thing. Like yeah, I get it, I'm special needs. I have all the respect in the world for my husband. But I think it's harder to BE me than it is to LOVE me.

Also, when I hear about how hard it is, that just puts me in the mindframe that I need to stay away from all humans, to avoid burdening them with my existence. Not actually helpful.

--Rogan

(Anonymous) 2015-02-25 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I kinda want to argue about how he's only a fanatic and terrorist from a certain pov (you know freedom fighters to so are rebel scum to others), and argue a bit about how he's possessed by a demon but uuuuh not worth it. He's a video game character.