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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-01 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2979 ]


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Re: Do you think fiction has an obligation for representation?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-02 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think the situation here is such that criticism should not be directed at the work itself but of the producers and networks for not offering more diverse stories.

There's nothing wrong with a story about a bunch of white submariners. In and of itself, that is very reflective of history.

But then you have to ask -- why aren't stories about black soldiers being afforded the same opportunity? And that isn't an issue with the story about the white submariners so much as it is an issue with the network and the business executives who aren't willing to give the stories of POC soldiers a chance.

It's an issue of attacking the wrong person. Someone who wants to honor their grandfather and his history will be understandably upset if you criticize him for his book about it that features no POC characters (when that is, in fact, the situation his grandfather faced).

It would be far more productive to go directly to the publisher and criticize them for not giving book deals to black authors or other POC authors or white authors writing about POC the same sorts of opportunities.

Re: Do you think fiction has an obligation for representation?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-02 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
You're speaking of a very specific hypothetical situation - someone wanting to honor their grandfather. But most writers are not looking to honor a loved one with their story. Most just pick a story that appeals to them, or that they think will be commercially succesful. Also, at the risk of sounding harsh, I think the feelings of the writer and whether they'll be upset or not are sort of irrelevant in this conversation. As I said, if you can't deal with criticism like an adult maybe you shouldn't put yourself out there.

I think criticizing the publishers for not giving an opportunity to more diverse stories is important, but I don't think that means that content creators are free of guilt or that they should be free of criticism. If nothing else, from a purely literary point of view, if you are producing the same kind of stories as everyone else from the same perspective, then you're probably not a very creative creator. Your stories will probably be unoriginal and boring unless you can bring something new to the table. That, in itself, is reason enough to criticize a creator.

Of course that is not to say that all stories about white men are boring, since writers keep thinking of new types of white men to write about.

Holy shit it's 4 am why am I awake.