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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-04 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2982 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2982 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Fake by Sanami Matoh]


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03.
[Derren Brown]


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04.
[Kare Kano]


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05.
[Margaret Houlihan, MASH]


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06.
[Longmire]


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07.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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08.
[Downton Abbey]


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09.
[Freaks and Geeks]


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[Moomins]


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11.
[Yuri Kuma Arashi]


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12.
[Kotoura-san]


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13.
[Agents of Shield]


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14.
[Mystery Skulls Animated]


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15.
[Chris Pratt, Indiana Jones]


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16.
[X Company]


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17.
(Galavant)


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18.
[Dragon Age: Origins/II/Inquisition]


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19.
[Alexis Denisof and Alyson Hannigan]


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20.
[One Piece]


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21.
[The Book Thief, The Last of Us, The Fall, The Walking Dead, The Walking Dead Game, The Man From Nowhere, Taxi Driver, Léon: The Professional, The City of Lost Children, Push, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Digging to China, Hawkeye, Wreck-It Ralph, Lawn Dogs, Alice in Wonderland, Pacific Rim: Tales From Year Zero, The Hunger Games]








Notes:

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-04 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Some folks dislike the Moomins anime? Wha-? How?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently it was "too soft", "got details wrong", and "didn't carry the original tone of Tove Jansson's works", nevermind that even if we only observe Tove's original material (novels, comics, picture books), the tone already varies wildly between different installments, and there are at least two completely different continuities.

I'm aware the anime didn't do a stellar job portraying the latest books, and on the other hand, the more "bookverse" tone of the anime didn't really... match... some of the times when they tried to base episodes on the more adult/satirical comics instead, but overall I think it did a pretty stellar job of making something internally cohesive out of the source material.

I also think that while it falls short of catching the more bittersweet tone of the later books *while actually adapthing them*, a lot of the original (not closely based on existing plots) episodes and plotlines actually do catch the more melancholy later-book vibes rather well (if not *quite* to the same extent), so it evens out.

And some book plots such as "The Last Dragon" (except for the bit with the hat maybe) actually got adapted near perfectly.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Image: Moomins

Text: I hated this film.

Tove Jansson was remarkably socially forward for someone published in the 1940s-70s. Then we finally get supposedly the most faithful adaptation of her work... and it portrays the protagonist solely as a controlling, jealous, unsympathetic, Nice Guy (tm) who can't dal with the girl he likes enjoying life without him.

Yes I've read the comic, the film's close (if awkwardly abridged), but ugh. There is so much else in Tove's works and Moomin's character they could have focused on. And were the filmmakers even aware that what they were adapting was supposed to be satire?

And no, we should not ignore the problematic elements in works that were "fair for their day", but there's no reason to go to this extreme. People who are introduced to the Moomins through this film are gonna get a very biased idea of Tove's values, which is a darn pity.

Also while this is visually pretty and the usage of colors is amazing, the pacing is atrocious, stuff happens without context or buildup, many of the jokes would be incomprehensible if you haven't read the comic version first, the voice acting is stiff and unemotive (at least in Finnish. It sounds like people were just reading lines from a paper half the time!).

S!B everyone is going on about how this is SO MUCH BETTER than the supposedly sacrilegeous 1990 anime. I mean sure the lighthouse and winter plots were watered down and some family tree stuff messed up (and the later Boken Nikki stuff was pure crap) but come on. At least Moomin 1990 was emotionally engaging, had complex, interesting and likeable characters, and (mostly) good writing and pacing, and even some notable character development and overarching plotlines if you watch it all in order. Plus it actually stands on its own.
type_wild: (So what - Waya)

[personal profile] type_wild 2015-03-05 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
TBH, The Moomin-Snork Maiden relationship was always my least favourite part of everything.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, a huge bigot I am aware of has Moomin tattoos. I can't shake the relation. :/

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a pity D:
And kind of ridiculous, considering it's such a huge aspect of the Moomins that they're so accepting of everyone...