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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-10 07:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #2988 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2988 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-10 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no problem with the authors being upset by what was written (I read a few and they were kind of brutal). I do have a problem with this idea that only certain people can read and comment on a fic that is placed in a public forum.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-10 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you point me to these reviews? The posts I found about this didn't lead me to the stories reviewed.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-11 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I will see if I can track down the post on Tumblr...

(Anonymous) 2015-03-11 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
http://archiveofourown.org/works/839637?page=2&show_comments=true#comments

(Anonymous) 2015-03-11 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
DA

All else aside, that comment is only barely helpful. I always feel like if your con/crit is so vague that it could have been copied from a Writing 101 website, you shouldn't bother posting it unsolicited.

In retrospect, you can really tell that they had to leave that comment for an assignment lol.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-11 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
That's the thing. If you put your fic out there, you expect some nasty reviews. Someone doesn't like the pairing, doesn't like the fact there was explicit sex, the fact that there wasn't enough explicit sex, and so on.

Which fanfic writer expects that their fic will be reviewed by a student who has to leave a public criticism of it just to pass their class? It's just bizarre.

So some uninterested student flames your fic in response for having to do crazy assignment for school. That's not really on.

What next, students following amateur birdwatchers around at the weekend and telling them they're holding their binoculars wrong, just so they can get extra credit for biology?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-11 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
^ this

The whole situation is straight out of bizarro land. I've gotten a few flames and when I put a new story online, I know there's the chance I'll get another. That pairing sucks, A should have bottomed!! etc. Alright, that's a risk I'm willing to take.

But ... a student reviewing my fic because a teacher linked them to it? Why wouldn't a fanfic writer be hella perturbed by that? I mean, do film students ring up amateur porn actors and actresses to criticize the performance in their latest movie?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-11 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
That's supposed to be brutal? Really? The cult of nice has really pampered fandom.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-03-11 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised. I was expecting a review that tore it to pieces. This basically says "you've got typos" (which is true) and "maybe try setting up your scenes more". It's kind of blunt, but seriously. Not that bad.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-11 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I agree that posting a fic on a public forum involves the understanding that anyone can read and review. That's a given.

However, you don't normally expect someone who has no clue about fanfic to end up on niche fanfic sites to begin with, let alone to read and review things that are of no interest to them whatsoever. A writer expects the people who visit that site and find their work to at least be vaguely familiar with the concepts, and will be reading on the understanding themselves that they're not reading pro-fic that's been edited to within and inch of its life.

And that's why the writers involved with this should at the very least have been given fair warning that it would be happening, and given the option to opt-out if they weren't comfortable with that.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-11 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
With the except of one troll I don't think was even in the class, just piggybacking on the mess, none of the ones I saw were brutal. Some of them were tone-deaf and socially awkward, but they were all at least attempting to be polite.

The backlash comments from the authors were far more brutal and less polite.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-11 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, the original concrit wasn't even that bad at all and actually quite helpful and polite. I don't know how it could be seen as rude at all, but then I've gotten really harsh critques in the past and even when they hurt my feelings I didn't piss my pants over it and took what they said on board. The author sounds like a complete fucking loser.