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[ SECRET POST #2989 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2989 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Digimon Adventure/02/Tri)

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['Allo 'Allo!]

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[Colby Keller]

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[Kokoro Kiseki - Vocaloid]

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[MSPaintAdventures, Homestuck]

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[David Mitchell and Robert Webb]

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[Graham McTavish from Outlander]

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[Game of Thrones/ A Song of Ice and Fire]

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[Alfred Hitchcock's Rope]

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["Darkness Falls," World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor]

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[Avengers]

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[Bob Bryar from My Chemical Romance]

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[Criminal Minds]

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[Vikings]

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[Gunnerkrigg Court]

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Gripe!

- Constant hiatuses in the middle of the season. It's what's nice about shows like Mad Men - yes, there's long hiatuses in between each season, but there's also a consistency. If there's too many hiatuses in one season, often I'll just lose interest in the show altogether.

- When a show is 90% cliffhangers, and/or cliffhangers at the end of the season. I've almost given up on How to Get Away With Murder because it feels like the show will never actually wrap anything up - it'll just keep ending in one cliffhanger after another. And death fake outs can be annoying if it's obvious it's a fake out, like on Castle - I know Castle/Beckett isn't dead. You're not leaving me in suspense until the next season (or after the mid-season break or whatever). I know they're alive. Stop doing that.

- On a similar note, someone leaving the place that establishes the character. We know they're coming back. It's a waste of time and energy to pretend any differently.

And death fake outs can be annoying if it's obvious it's a fake out, like on Castle - I know Castle/Beckett isn't dead. You're not leaving me in suspense until the next season (or after the mid-season break or whatever). I know they're alive. Stop doing that.

- On a similar note, someone leaving the place that establishes the character. We know they're coming back. It's a waste of time and energy to pretend any differently.

Gripe high five, anon!

THIS! I hate the constant hiatuses and then the cliffhangers.

It's why I'm down to only watching three shows live any more. Nashville, Revenge, and Jane the Virgin. And I'm only really keeping up with Nashville and Jane the Virgin because my mom and I watch them together.

The only others shows I watch regularly are @midnight and Jeopardy where I don't really have to worry about cliffhangers or hiatuses.

What about the shows that spend the first five minutes wrapping up last week's cliffhanger and then do nothing until the final couple of minutes to set up this week's? Episodic storytelling is a lost art.

However the hell Disney XD plays their new cartoons. And to an extent Mattel has this problem too.

The next Gravity Falls episode comes out 'in summer'. Are we serious? Even one episode a month would be better than this!

-Shows just killing off people left and right for seemingly no other reason than to shock me. Guess what, it doesn't work anymore guys. I am more shocked when someone lives.

-When TV shows have basically the same recap every episode for a whole season (looking at you season 1 of Supernatural)

-For fandom, when some stupid phrase is everywhere in fics. Like Punk/Jerk for Captain America fic. Or FUCKING SOUR WOLF FOR TEEN WOLF FIC!

Edited 2015-03-11 23:27 (UTC)

I'm with that first one. Just because anyone can die doesn't mean everyone should, dammit. At least save the mass extinctions for the finale!

What constitutes killing a character for "seemingly no reason"? Because I have a feeling this is directed at GoT/ASOIAF, but I think most of the deaths in it so far have been pretty well justified. Er, that is, not warranted, but the killers have motivations that are explained well in context.

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dethtoll - 2015-03-11 23:48 (UTC) - Expand

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kallanda_lee - 2015-03-12 00:37 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2015-03-12 00:58 (UTC) - Expand

-Shows just killing off people left and right for seemingly no other reason than to shock me. Guess what, it doesn't work anymore guys. I am more shocked when someone lives.

This! Though you also have shows where half the time, the "dead" character ends up being alive anyway, like Heroes. (I'm convinced they only kept Sylar alive for the fangirls. Who annoyed me so much I had to leave the fandom.)

Yeah the death one gets old after a while, like I will stop caring about the characters because they're just going to die anyway.

-For fandom, when some stupid phrase is everywhere in fics. Like Punk/Jerk for Captain America fic. Or FUCKING SOUR WOLF FOR TEEN WOLF FIC!

OH MY GOD I AM NOT ALONE. Like I didn't mind it to begin with, but that stupid phrase is everywhere in fic and I just want it to stop, it's said once in the first film and that's it. WHY IS IT EVERYWHERE.

And agreed on Sourwolf as well, it was said once, it was funny. It does not need to be brought up in every Stiles/Derek fic.

Treating one's own analysis of something as if it's totally what the writer/creator intended too. Bonus hate if one then throws a fit because thsa analysis reveals some slight/insensitivity/-ist concept.

People who completely don't understand the concessions that have to be made when producing a 20some episode season and jump up and down on the creator or ALL the writers. Sometimes bad standalones get made because there wasn't time to do anything else or fix someone else's idea. Sometimes your favorite guest star isn't available or the people with the money want something else to happen. That's just the way it is.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-03-12 01:31 (UTC) - Expand

When the books get turned into a film/tv show and then suddenly everyone's authoratively lecturing you on why one or the other is better.

I don't care. I just want to be left alone with my books, dammit.

Tl;dr: GET OFF MY LAWN

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dethtoll - 2015-03-11 23:41 (UTC) - Expand

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philstar22 - 2015-03-12 00:03 (UTC) - Expand

People who can't handle guns.
Because it's not that hard to teach actors to handle guns when it's a show about people dealing with guns.

MCU. Just all of it.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-03-12 02:59 (UTC) - Expand

Here's an odd one: writers who have no idea how to write a character with X belief without turning them into "Have I mentioned how much I believe in X? By the way, I believe in X!" For instance, I read one story where one of the characters turned out to be secretly working for a Christian organization. Before that revelation, he had a complex and interesting personality. Afterwards, the only thing he ever did was mention that he was Christian.

1) Will-they/won't-they

I used to be able to handle it but I'm just so over it now. Especially in non-romance shows.

2) Cutesy characters; guru characters -- basically formulaic casting

I like procedurals. However, lately, all the procedurals seem to just be checking boxes when they come up with the makeup of the cast. Like, I don't mind if the MC ends up being a guru or there is a cutesy, nerdy character. BUT, the show has to earn my affection/believability for these characters. You can't just expect me to agree with the guru's gut or let him go off the reservation if I haven't spent any time to learn to respect him. Also, I'm not going to like the nerdy character everyone's supposed to like because you tell me to. All those other popular characters earned their popularity (and their over-the-topness) over the course of several seasons. They can get away with it. Your new show cannot. Stop trying to cram that crap down my throat.

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kamino_neko - 2015-03-12 11:37 (UTC) - Expand

Overloading angst and pain without a clear purpose. Making characters suffer just to make them suffer over and over and over again gets really old. I like angst. I like pain. But I want it well written and I want it to fit the characters and the story. And I want some end to it at some point. This is mostly specifically aimed at tv shows because with books and movies there is usually a clear end of some sort.

Characters who do something horrible or who are dicks who the narrative keeps excusing or justifying or woobifying.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-03-13 15:43 (UTC) - Expand

Forced happy endings, especially by means of pairing everyone up.

A series constantly trying to top itself. Like, "wow, we were so epic! How are we going to keep people interested?"

"Well, our only option is to make it even more EPIC!"

No. It just gets so tedious. Everything is just bigger, and stronger, and it just feels so same-y. I lose frame of reference.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-03-12 01:06 (UTC) - Expand

Grrrr to threads prompting things that would be perfectly good secrets.

Characters with holding information from each other, just so the writer can have a source of conflict. Some shows seem to have dialogue that is 90% cryptic remarks just so the viewer is confused and the characters can squabble. If I want squabbling children I'll go to the office, I don't want to see that in my escapist recreational viewing.

Or slow paced for the sake of slow pacing. Now don't get me wrong, slow pacing can work if you nail everything else. The recent BBC adapatation of Wolf Hall has genuine character conflict, and is slow paced an atmospheric. It is immersive. And that means that it isn't just scene after scene of reaction shots that are not reacting to anything.

And shaky cam doing fake zoom ins for a reaction shot, now that is the worst. We'll get a medium close up, all bobbing around 'cause it is shaky cam, then someone will deliver an ominous line, and there will be a pause for a reactionless reaction shot, then the camera will all but zoom up the actors nose so they can fake raising their eyebrows in surprise/open their mouth slightly in shock.

And finally. Putting too much into the show in the hope of getting a rep for being serious and weighty. Not everything has to be serious and weighty. Sometimes less is more, and a fun light show which uses one or two great ideas well is a lot more enjoyable to watch than one that has thrown in a whole bathtubs worth of sociological meanings, twists, concepts, and just hopes something sticks and the critics lap it up. Less. Is. More. Take this rant, I've chucked in everything and it would probably get more/any replies if I broke it up into individual rants on specific subjects.

Redemption Equals Death.

I hate this trope. Most times it feels like a copout. I find it better when they show the work it takes for a character to try to do better over just killing them to pull on people's heartstrings.

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feotakahari - 2015-03-12 01:33 (UTC) - Expand

There is nothing wrong with introducing new characters, but if the new characters are front and center right away and take a lot of time and focus from the established characters and character relationships that the audience likes, the audience is going to resent those new characters, like Kitty (Elementary) and Hawley (Sleepy Hollow).

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(Anonymous) - 2015-03-12 06:46 (UTC) - Expand

"This series/anime/etc is based on this particular book" and then it's not. Case in point:

Revenge is based on the Count of Montecristo, except the only thing they have in common is the revenge part and the fact that the dad goes to jail for something he wasn't guilty of.

Or Madoka Magica where people keep throwing the "it's based on Faust!" when the only thing they have in common is the "making a contract with the devil" part. Also Faust was never tricked by Mephistopheles to make a contract and knew exactly what he was getting into.

Ack sorry if this sounds like a rant, but it's been something I've been holding inside for a while now.

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