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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-13 07:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #2991 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2991 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Keeping Up Appearances)


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(Steven Universe)


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06. http://i.imgur.com/j3CivJT.jpg
[linked for porn (illustrated/pixelated) ]


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[Brian Blessed]


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08. [ SPOILERS for Grimm and Elementary ]



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09. [ SPOILERS for Project Zero/Fatal Frame 2: Crimson Butterfly ]



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10. [ SPOILERS for Transformers: More than Meets the Eye ]



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11. [ WARNING for abuse, rape ]



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12. [ WARNING for rape, abuse ]



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13. [ WARNING for suicide ]



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14. [ WARNING for noncon, slavery ]



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15. [ WARNING for abuse ]

[One Piece]


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16. [ WARNING for suicide ]














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sarillia: (Default)

Re: Discussion for Secret #16

[personal profile] sarillia 2015-03-13 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I usually end up disagreeing with everyone on this topic because on the one hand you've got people using violent media as a scapegoat and on the other you've got people acting like the things you view have absolutely no influence whatsoever. I think we are influenced by everything we experience whether it's happening to us or we experience it vicariously, but I don't think you can make universal statements about what that effect is because it's so highly personal and individual. I think looking at that kind of thing can be harmful for one person and helpful to another and neutral to a third, and it could all change with a different example of the kind of thing you're talking about because maybe a certain detail makes all the difference for one of those individuals.

Re: Discussion for Secret #16

(Anonymous) 2015-03-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
OP here

Yeah, this is mostly where I am with it. I think we in general can/should be aware of what we're ingesting, and any effects it may/can have. So we should be able to watch/read/play pretty much anything. I don't have the stomach for FPS, though. The older I get, the less tolerant I am of seeing fictionalized violence on screen. Stuff blowing up, okay, maaaaaaybe borderline, but stuff that wouldn't have bothered me years ago (war movies, battle scenes) just get an instant NO! from my brain now. IDK if that's a protective mechanism that I didn't have when I was younger, reflective of my more conservative outlook now that I'm older, or what.
nightscale: Starbolt (Marvel: Nebula)

Re: Discussion for Secret #16

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-03-14 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
This is how I see it for the most part as well. I don't think violent movies/games are entirely to blame for violent behaviour but the normalisation of seeing such acts casually thrown about in the media does have an effect I think. It's a complicated issue tbh and it's not one that I think can be fixed by outright nixing all violence from everything or having so much that people don't blink at it any more(personally I think there's a huge difference between fictional gore and rl gore, I can handle a lot of fictional gore relatively well, but gore irl? Nope, cannot handle it and it makes me feel sick).

But idk it's a tricky issue.

Re: Discussion for Secret #16

(Anonymous) 2015-03-14 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's weird how a lot of movies now eliminate the blood to get a PG rating. Like you'll have all this fantastic violence, people walking away from explosions and running around after being punched in the head... it makes me wonder if maybe the stuff that DOES show the blood is almost better, in a way.

Because at least it shows the consequences of physical violence, and that people aren't cartoon characters.
nightscale: Starbolt (Marvel: Nebula)

Re: Discussion for Secret #16

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-03-14 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
You've got a point there actually, like there are several movies I can think of where enemies in them were definitely killed(because you don't get hit in the head with a wrench and come out of that unscathed) but because they wanted to get past the ratings they don't show any actual blood in the aftermath.

So yeah that could be a contributing issue, especially given how a lot of 'comic book violence' if you will is in a lot of movies. It's something to ponder certainly.

Re: Discussion for Secret #16

(Anonymous) 2015-03-14 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I think you've hit on the problem with the discussion is that people want to strictly take one side or the other, and like most things in life the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

I think we definitely internalize a lot from media, but I actually think we get more prejudices from it then we get violence from it. I think it has to do with how society in general reacts to violence versus how it reacts to prejudice. Like if you watch a show, and hit your brother, your parents are most likely going to yell at you. We are told often how horrible violence is and not to imitate what we see on television, so most people view it as something horrible that they would never do.

But let's say a character says something racist, you might get told that it's bad, but then again you might not. Your parents may also not immediately pick up on some of the more subtle racist things in the media you're consuming, so you internalize a lot of that. And it informs your world views, even if it's wrong.

So I guess I'd say I'm not as concerned about violence in media as I am about media and it's prejudices. I do think we could use less violence, but I usually only think about that when the sex versus violence debate comes up, because I fall on the side of "who cares if people see nudity/sex, it's not as bad as seeing violence."