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[ SECRET POST #2991 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2991 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Keeping Up Appearances)

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(Steven Universe)

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06. http://i.imgur.com/j3CivJT.jpg
[linked for porn (illustrated/pixelated) ]

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[Brian Blessed]

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08. [ SPOILERS for Grimm and Elementary ]

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09. [ SPOILERS for Project Zero/Fatal Frame 2: Crimson Butterfly ]

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10. [ SPOILERS for Transformers: More than Meets the Eye ]

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11. [ WARNING for abuse, rape ]

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12. [ WARNING for rape, abuse ]

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13. [ WARNING for suicide ]

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14. [ WARNING for noncon, slavery ]

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15. [ WARNING for abuse ]

[One Piece]

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16. [ WARNING for suicide ]

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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IDK that I necessarily agree with this viewpoint, but there are a significant amount of people who take the "Garbage IN = Garbage OUT" view towards viewing such things as mentioned in the secret. Like I say, I don't know that I agree...but that's only because I'd be a hypocrite, if I did. Though I don't exactly actively seek out anything quite as bad as what's mentioned in the secret. If certain members of my church knew I'd read a novel like Wetbones for instance (tho' they would have to have explained to them what the novel is, and is about), I'd likely be scheduled for the next available ~~execution~~ exorcism, well, you know what I mean.

What say you, FS? Does watching/viewing/reading violent things degrade your brain?

I've noticed that if I spend too long reading or playing something that's blatantly sexist, then for a couple days afterwards I'm much more likely to think insulting or condescending things when thinking about women I know. (This is one of the reasons I avoid sexist stories like the plague.) I can't say a metric fuckton of fictional violence has made me any less disturbed by real violence, though.

On a side note, I have to feel for Brad Bushman. He's spent years trying to prove that violent video games cause bullying, and every time the news reports on it, they think he's saying that violent video games cause gun massacres.

No it does not unless you already had something wrong with you to begin with.

I usually end up disagreeing with everyone on this topic because on the one hand you've got people using violent media as a scapegoat and on the other you've got people acting like the things you view have absolutely no influence whatsoever. I think we are influenced by everything we experience whether it's happening to us or we experience it vicariously, but I don't think you can make universal statements about what that effect is because it's so highly personal and individual. I think looking at that kind of thing can be harmful for one person and helpful to another and neutral to a third, and it could all change with a different example of the kind of thing you're talking about because maybe a certain detail makes all the difference for one of those individuals.

OP here

Yeah, this is mostly where I am with it. I think we in general can/should be aware of what we're ingesting, and any effects it may/can have. So we should be able to watch/read/play pretty much anything. I don't have the stomach for FPS, though. The older I get, the less tolerant I am of seeing fictionalized violence on screen. Stuff blowing up, okay, maaaaaaybe borderline, but stuff that wouldn't have bothered me years ago (war movies, battle scenes) just get an instant NO! from my brain now. IDK if that's a protective mechanism that I didn't have when I was younger, reflective of my more conservative outlook now that I'm older, or what.

This is how I see it for the most part as well. I don't think violent movies/games are entirely to blame for violent behaviour but the normalisation of seeing such acts casually thrown about in the media does have an effect I think. It's a complicated issue tbh and it's not one that I think can be fixed by outright nixing all violence from everything or having so much that people don't blink at it any more(personally I think there's a huge difference between fictional gore and rl gore, I can handle a lot of fictional gore relatively well, but gore irl? Nope, cannot handle it and it makes me feel sick).

But idk it's a tricky issue.

I think it's weird how a lot of movies now eliminate the blood to get a PG rating. Like you'll have all this fantastic violence, people walking away from explosions and running around after being punched in the head... it makes me wonder if maybe the stuff that DOES show the blood is almost better, in a way.

Because at least it shows the consequences of physical violence, and that people aren't cartoon characters.

You've got a point there actually, like there are several movies I can think of where enemies in them were definitely killed(because you don't get hit in the head with a wrench and come out of that unscathed) but because they wanted to get past the ratings they don't show any actual blood in the aftermath.

So yeah that could be a contributing issue, especially given how a lot of 'comic book violence' if you will is in a lot of movies. It's something to ponder certainly.

Yeah I think you've hit on the problem with the discussion is that people want to strictly take one side or the other, and like most things in life the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

I think we definitely internalize a lot from media, but I actually think we get more prejudices from it then we get violence from it. I think it has to do with how society in general reacts to violence versus how it reacts to prejudice. Like if you watch a show, and hit your brother, your parents are most likely going to yell at you. We are told often how horrible violence is and not to imitate what we see on television, so most people view it as something horrible that they would never do.

But let's say a character says something racist, you might get told that it's bad, but then again you might not. Your parents may also not immediately pick up on some of the more subtle racist things in the media you're consuming, so you internalize a lot of that. And it informs your world views, even if it's wrong.

So I guess I'd say I'm not as concerned about violence in media as I am about media and it's prejudices. I do think we could use less violence, but I usually only think about that when the sex versus violence debate comes up, because I fall on the side of "who cares if people see nudity/sex, it's not as bad as seeing violence."

I think it can.

I've found myself needing a separation between sexual stuff and violent stuff less and less, which is bothering me because I am worried that it might effect my brain IRL.

I think it's a very personal reaction. I watch a lot of horror movies, across all subgenres. I really 'enjoy' the 'gorn/torture porn' genre, because it causes a visceral reaction. I don't 'get my rocks off' to it, or anything, but I'm not phased by supernatural horrors. Real (as in non-supernatural, but still fictional) people doing horrible things leaves me shaken. When I see an injury on screen, I can often feel a phantom sensation of it, and that's when I have to pause the movie and go look at pictures of kittens, or something.

Psychological horror, especially with certain topics, has been almost comforting, because I have experienced it. I feel like other people can get me, or I can say, "you know like in that movie? That's what I feel right now."

I feel like it's made me a more compassionate person. I have a frame of reference, albeit indirect, to horrible injuries or experiences, so I can empathise/sympathise better, and I'm not going to dismiss it. I don't have to personally experience, say, getting my foot broken on purpose to realize just how horrific it is, because I've seen it play out.

Other people react in different ways: some take their fear out on others, some find it cathartic, some panic, some desensitize; all can happen for different reasons. It's so dependent on what else has happened in your life.

Honestly, I think the older I get the more turned off I am by gruesome violence. When I was a kid I would watch the bloodiest war movies and ask for more. Now I'm like...let's watch Disney.

NAYRT -- I think some of it's because most (middle-class, 1st world country) kids don't have any context for that kind of violence. You get older and life happens and suddenly it's not fun anymore because you get that this is shit that actually happens to real people.

I suspect you're right. It's gotten to a point where the news is too dark for me. :/

this is me also and I think anon above me hit on why it is

I feel you on this, I'm not even that old really but my taste in movies has gone from 'edgy' gore fests to I just want to watch Disney movies or superhero movies for a few hours. Mindless gore just doesn't really appeal to me as much anymore.

Hell I'm in the same place with video games as well, I'd rather play something light-hearted and fun than ALL THE BLOOD AND GUTS, DARK REALISM shit.

(There are exceptions but that's usually when it's my time of the month, and even then I've started drifting towards Disney films instead of watching say Predator for the nth time).

IDK.

I will say that for years I had trouble, as a writer, (and a woman myself) writing female characters. I firmly believe that this is because so few women are written as well-rounded characters (or whole people) in media.

For a long term, I also had that "girl who isn't like THOSE other slutty girls" mentality. But I grew up and got over it.

I generally try to avoid watching really violent or disturbing stuff (simple because I just don't enjoy it)... but I guess the corollary is that there has to be a POINT to it. There's nothing I hate more than dark and edginess for the sake of it.

It has been shown to desensitize people to certain images or situations.

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