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fandomsecrets2015-03-20 07:02 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2015-03-20 07:02 pm
[ SECRET POST #2998 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2998 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #428.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 01:22 am (UTC)(link)Ignoring the fact that yes you're allowed/entitled to, would you leave that sort of concrit on a fic you read in a fandom you had zero interest in? If you wouldn't, then you need to unpack the reasons why you wouldn't. If you would, then I ask what you'd expect the writer to think? What would YOU think if someone left concrit on a fic you wrote who had just stumbled randomly on your work from Google (or as in this case, was told to do it by their college professor)? How much weight would you assign to their opinion?
And as judgemental, hateful and sometimes downright dangerous as people are over fannish things (especially when fannish things become entangled with RL identities), are you really shocked that some people want to preserve that safe space? Some of the reactions may be extreme, but the motivation behind it isn't particularly hard to understand.
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 01:58 am (UTC)(link)Now, I won't do it, but it's just because I don't see the point in commenting about something I'm not invested on.
If someone else wants to do so? That's ok IMO, as long as they aren't rude (no one was in this case) and don't look down on fans or something similar.
"What would YOU think if someone left concrit on a fic you wrote who had just stumbled randomly on your work from Google (or as in this case, was told to do it by their college professor)? How much weight would you assign to their opinion?"
The funny part it's that there's no "would" for me, since I have got concrit from people outside fandom. It would take to long to explain the circumstances that lead to that, but let's just say it wasn't anything as public as in this case.
Anyway, IMO the weight of concrit doesn't comes from the person giving it but by its contents and how it's given.
If something doesn't make sense/is subjective, it's bad concrit and it's pointless to care about it.
If someone is rude, they probably aren't sending concrit but a flame.
If they aren't rude and have a point in there? It doesn't matter if they're BNF, NNF or "outsiders" and in the end I can still choose to ignore that (good) concrit for any reason (like not caring about improving, because that's perfectly ok) or not.
(I do have an emotional reaction to concrit that is not always this calm, but I learned a long time ago to get away from the keyboard at those moments, because after awhile it's obvious is not that big of a deal.
Also, fandom is not and has never been a safe space. Pretending it is, is more damaging that concrit can ever be)
"I'm just saying that there was nothing at all whiny or over-reactionary about people thinking that people who didn't know the canon they were writing about posting crit for it was weird."
And I'm saying it wasn't. We'll probably just have to agree to disagree.
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 02:07 am (UTC)(link)