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⌈ Secret Post #3004 ⌋

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[Hoozuki no reitetsu]

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[Terry Pratchett and his daughter]

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"in wider society, this is largely seen as a victim or martyr complex, and generally seen as either pathological or manipulative"

Really? I think it probably depends on the person doing it, because behaving selflessly is seen as generally admirable pretty much everywhere (which in and of itself leads people who don't behave that way 24/7 into feeling relentless pathological guilt).

It's pretty obvious when that "selflessness" is truly manipulative, and it's fair to call people out on that. But that would mean everyone who devotes themselves to charitable works would be deemed manipulative and that just doesn't happen.

ayrt

And I 100% agree with you, but if you look into academic scholarship into this, most argue there is no such thing as a non-pathological version of self sacrifice. (I think it's bullshit, and there's a very clear when selflessness and self sacrifice is done only altruistically, rather than manipulatively.)

I say society in general, because while giving examples of my own behavior in a class about construction of self in society, most of my classmates were pretty astounded because they couldn't imagine doing the same stuff. (Except for one girl who grew up Irish Catholic, haha.)

Again, to me it also depends on what kind of framework you operate from. Since much of modern society comes at interactions from social exchange theory (I do this for you, so that you do this for me), doing something with no payoff is hard to think off.

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Re: Normal vs abnormal social behavior

Re: Normal vs abnormal social behavior