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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-27 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #3005 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3005 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

It'd help if people were more clear about what this ableism everyone isn't noticing, is. It is never helpful to say "you're ___ but you don't notice" without qualifying it any further or providing examples.

No, it is not OP's responsibility to clarify. They don't -have- to provide examples. But if they don't, and expect any other reaction than "what are you talking about? Examples please?" then I find that irrational.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

In my experience it makes little difference unless the example is extremely glaring. But I'm avoiding reading comments to that secret exactly because I can imagine what kind of replies it's getting. So I'm glad it's down the bottom out of my eyeline.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the same shit as always. A bunch of people saying ableism doesn't exist, a bunch of people saying everyone who thinks ableism doesn't exist is stupid, a few people here and there asking for education and being told to educate themselves about something they're supposedly unable to notice by themselves, so nothing positive even comes out of it. So a clusterfuck.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's not. Several people are asking politely for examples and wanting to learn, yet they are only getting aggressive answers (from you, I'm assuming).

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
What.

"a few people here and there asking for education and being told to educate themselves about something they're supposedly unable to notice by themselves... so nothing positive even comes out of it"

Would I have said that if I were the one answering them aggressively?

My tone regarding the people telling those polite people "get educated about something but I won't tell you what" was clearly disparaging to me, because they are 100% unhelpful. If it wasn't disparaging to you, I'm informing you now that it was supposed to be.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Plenty of hostility towards anyone who dares complain about ableism going on too, and several disabled people explaining why they don't want to engage about the issue.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'm one of those disabled people, and I will repeat what I said on the thread: ableism =/= words on the Internet. That's all anyone really has to understand.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2015-03-28 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Psst. I'm engaging and giving examples where I can. I'm not as active in fandom recently, so I can give less, but I'm definitely letting people know what I've personally seen. If I come across aggressive, it's not meant to be at the people who are asking questions; it's meant at the assholes who are being ableist in the first place, and I'll certainly apologize if it came across otherwise.