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⌈ Secret Post #3005 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't have to be rooed in that, though. sure, when people take the glasses and then make fun of people because they can't see, that's one thing, but we had a kid in school who had a very unique hairstyle, and got mocked for that, got her hair pulled, and laughed at when the hairstyle got messed up. So sometimes different outward appeareance is all it is, and the mainstream/margin dynamics manifest themselves completely disconnected from greater societal isms but rather along what constitutes a majority/minority within a subgroup.

[elialshadowpine]

A hairstyle is very different from a necessary medical device, imo; you can choose your hair, but you can't choose whether or not you need glasses or contacts to see. To me, it's more along the lines of making fun of someone in a wheelchair, or who needs another assistive device; they don't have a choice in the matter, and maybe the kids are making fun of them because they stand out, but that doesn't mean it's not rooted in ableism.

Kids pick things up; we all struggle with various -isms we've either been brought up to, or learned via societal osmosis. I'm not saying that the kids are being deliberately ableist; I honestly doubt a lot of -isms are intended, and think most are out of ignorance. I think you're absolutely correct in that it's based on "looking different", but that doesn't disconnect it from ableism. I don't think most kids realize how necessary glasses are, but again, that doesn't mean it's not rooted in ableism, which is incredibly pervasive culturally.

If that doesn't make sense, then I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree. And that's fine! I don't expect everyone to agree with me on everything, especially on sensitive topics. :)

[(Anonymous)]

no, no, it makes perfect sense, but I remember that I only really learned that glasses were necessary when I was in highschool, because I always assumed (it'S like that in my family) that glasses were normal, but you used them to see better. Not that you *needed them* to see because of a disability. Also, many of the kids who mocked other kids as four-eyes and whatever had glasses-wearing parents, themselves.
What I mean is, that not all mocking of someone who has a certain feature due to a disability has to have anything to do with the disability. like, a black kid can be mocked for having an afro by white kids in a mainly white environment. In this case most people will agree that that's rooted in racism. But what about the same kid getting mocked in a 100% black environment where afros are just completely "out"? What about an environment with 90% black kids? 60%? 50? 30? And now thinking back to the first example with only the one black kid and all others are white, can we still be 100% sure it's rooted in racism?

And yes, you can change a hairstyle. Still, it can be part of your identity. You can change a religion, too, or decide not to dress according to it, but would you say that bullying someone who wears a headscarf for it is very different drom bullying someone for their glasses? And I was talking kids here, and they're seldom in control of their hairstyle. (I wasn't in control of what I wore and I got bullied for it. Sure, it's not a disability for life, but that doesn't mean much to a 10 year old...)

[elialshadowpine]

Actually, yes, in your example of an all-black school, that would be racism; as much as I hate to use this term because of how SJWs have twisted it into a bludgeon, internalized racism is very much a thing, especially for young kids. There's a WHOLE thing on hair in the black community. And in the example of an all-white school except for one black student -- still racism.

And no, headscarves and the like fall under Islamaphobia, which the US at least has had huge issues with in the last decade and some, especially. It's a sign of non-assimilation into US culture, and that's often taken... poorly, to say the least. In the case of a 10yo, you're absolutely right; I was actually thinking teen when you said "unique hairstyle" because of so many teens I know who went through some extreme hairstyles then.

It's not a pissing contest. The fact that some things are rooted in -isms doesn't negate the pain, abuse, harassment, bullying, etc, that other kids get for being different in whatever way, and I never meant to convey that. Bullying doesn't have to be -ism based to be incredibly traumatizing. And I am NOT saying to ignore the kids who are getting bullied for other reasons because some are being bullied for -isms; ALL are important, and those kids should be supported, and dear gods don't get me started on my "how the US treats bullies" rant. By no means did I intend, ignore everything else in favor of putting -isms first; literally the only thing I was intending was to point out how it is ableism, but again, that doesn't make what other kids are dealing with any less painful or horrific to deal with.