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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-29 02:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3007 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
OP, are you talking about your fandom in particular (if you, good for you!) or just fandom in general?
Because for fandom in general this is simply not true, most places people are as terrible on the issue of what makes one a real fan as they've always been.
Maybe it's been blissfully outside of your loop, but there's a few of those people still ruining things for people everywhere.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Not OP, but yeah, I still see this everywhere too and it makes me sad and tired.
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[personal profile] visp 2015-03-29 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, fixed fans are bullshit! Folding fans all the way!

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No way! You'll pry my Japanese paddle fan from my cold, dead hands! Which are chilly b/c I just used it to cool down my sushi rice.

Let's see you do THAT with a folding fan. Meh.
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[personal profile] praetorian_guard 2015-03-29 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You must not be in comics fandom, then. Those debates will never end.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no, you're all fans. It's just some of you are jerks.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-03-29 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a gorgeous fan, and I want it.

However, I have to wonder what fandom you're in that the 'real fan' bullshit is no longer a problem. I think that's a topic that will be around as long as fandom exists. (Which is unfortunate, because it sucks the fun out of things.)
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[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2015-03-29 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Danny Phantom fandom had this pretty bad during our fandom war. A group of fans even called themselves "True fans" (literally lol) and the other "side" "Anti-Fans.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Was that the one where the creator only asked fans to not post porn on his forum and the fans decided this meant NO porn was allowed at all?
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[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2015-03-30 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeeeeeep that's the one.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-31 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it sounded familiar! One of my high school friends ranted about being called a pedo for shipping... I think Danny/Vlad and his sister with a ghost? Which baffled the rest of us since we were the same age as Danny.
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[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2015-03-31 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ah yeah. They had a bad case of black and white morality. Sort of like SJWs except sorta fundie like and in some cases, homophobic.

I was shocked they never came down on me for that one time I wrote Danny/Ember.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Image: a painted silk folding fan

Text: I’m so glad fandom has matured and moved on from the whole fruitless “who is a real fan?” debate

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Did it really literally keep you awake at night?
What aspect? Whether you were a real fan or whether other people were?
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[personal profile] nightscale 2015-03-29 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I still see this a lot sadly, but if you've found somewhere that doesn't then that's honestly awesome.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless you're in the K-Pop fandom, right? "You're not a TRUE Sone if you don't LOVE each and ~every~ member and buy all their merchandise and pay to be in their fanclub!"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
But... this is the wank that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends. I started reading it not knowing what it was, and now I'll go on reading it forever just because this is the wank that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends. I started reading it not knowing what it was, and now I'll go on reading it forever just because this is the wank that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends. I started reading it not knowing what it was, and now I'll go on reading it forever just because this is the wank that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends, I started AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH *dies*

(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because now that stuff has been pushed aside for all of the SJW bullshit I see. I'd rather see people fighting over 'who's a real fan' nowadays.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha no.

I don't think that debate will ever end.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
There so many conditions people attach to "real" fans:

If you like the movie, but didn't read the book - you're not a real fan.
If you read the book, but liked the movie better - you're not a real fan.
If you didn't like all of the movies - you're not a real fan.
If you liked all of the movies (you're supposed to only like A, C, and D and think B and E are terrible) - you're not a real fan.
If you didn't read the comics - you're not a real fan.
If you watch/read all the supplemental material - you're not a real fan.
Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Re: I don't think that debate will ever end.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
If You Like The Villains
If You Didn't Watch All The Seasons

And not forget the creative side

If You Ship Non-Canon
If You Write AU/What If
If You Do Crossovers
If You Draw Fanart That's Not 100% Screenshot Accurate
- Like Genderbent
- Different Style (Simpsons is usually ok, but anything else is wrong)
- Re-imagining the characters as ponies, princesses, sailor senshi, anthros, mers, nagas, jedi, mandalorians, fish, robots, superheroes, or piles of rocks.

Re: I don't think that debate will ever end.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
If you prefer the old/new adaptation to the new/old one - you're not a real fan.
If you prefer the adaptation/s to the source material - you're not a real fan.
If you haven't read the source material and get confused by something in the adaptation/s - you're not a real fan.
If you criticize certain things/one thing/at all - you're not a real fan.

Needless to say some fandoms are heavily filtered on my dash.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Lucky you. Not only does my fandoms have people arguing over new vs old versions of adaptations, one of them also has a bonus "you can't complain about the new anime because it's just like the manga!" reply to any possible criticism... even when it's about things caused by the team changing things from the manga.

Like, say, the villains surviving their deaths. Or how some scenes read completely different because they leave out critical lines or details.