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fandomsecrets2015-04-03 06:39 pm
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)I'm still on LJ, but all the newer fandoms are on tumblr, which sucks - I hate how fragmented tumblr is. It's so distancing.
We need a whole new platform that combines the best of both.
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Ahagahaha and then I felt sad.
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 03:56 am (UTC)(link)Oh, me too. And the few people that I still see around? Yup, they're spending all their time on Tumblr, where they don't even write complete sentences anymore, they just post endless series of gifsets.
So I don't see ANYTHING seducing them back to LJ, sadly. Not even my gorgeous self :-P
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I totally agree. We need a platform that has the best features of both (and, hopefully, the worst of neither). I'd be all over that.
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 07:33 am (UTC)(link)Yup, I got that email yesterday, and was amused to see this secret today.
I can't participate in fandom the way I used to (i.e. actively) if everything is on Tumblr. I use it just fine, but I sense no potential for conversations.
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My flist was getting updated less and less (people were commenting less and less, even when I tried engaging at their journals), writing out entries started to feel like such a chore (I used to get a steady stream of comments, but that changed when my flist migrated; eventually I stopped posting entries altogether), and most the comms I frequented slowed to a crawl.
It was a massive disappointment for me because I used to love the whole LJ platform, but most the people I knew had already moved on, and though I clung to it for a while hoping the love would rekindle, it just wasn't the same.
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 07:43 am (UTC)(link)no subject
F!S reminds me of the olden days of LJ. Maybe it's a bit slower now, but I still prefer it to all other platforms because it's so much easier to use. (If you just want to talk, anyway. Which I do...)
If you have a DW account you can still add people! Though I don't do A LOT of it because I tend to overthink it and worry people might not want me to. That and I've got out of the whole entries thing, so the most I do is IM people on occasion. Still... It's there if you want it! (I do, but can't seem to get back into the swing of things.)
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)FS being smaller now is nice in its own way; we used to have so many members I could only remember a handful, but now it's like Cheers up in here. I don't want it to shrink any further, though, and it'd be nice to have fresh blood. Sometimes I wish the DW community were active enough to make it worth it to keep a journal again -- like, I would totally add you! We've actually talked lots though obviously you wouldn't know me from the next anon, haha.
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Ooo, that sounds unpleasant. Maybe you should have changed usernames? Though, geez, it seems like people would move on if your WIP's haven't been updated in a while... some people don't like to let go. That's as good as any reason to go anon.
Ahaha, yes, sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name. (Or in this case, where you know everybody else's name.) Big communities can be exciting but there is something special about ones where you feel you know the majority of people. There are even a few anons that I've given nicknames because we've spoke so often. (Are you H50 anon? I'm leaning towards no BUT as you say, it can be somewhat challenging to differentiate.)
I don't want the comm to get any smaller either, which is why I'm glad we've seen a few new named users lately. New anons are welcome as well, but obviously I wouldn't recognize them.
Yea, sometimes I miss making entries and ranting about my favorite shows/games/etc, and commenting on other people's entries about said shows/games/etc, but f!s is a nice alternative even if things aren't the same. Change man, it's brutal.
...Do you want a nickname? I don't know what you're into, so...
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)Anonymity is cool for more than being a lazy ficcer's witness protection, though. You can get embroiled in wanky threads (if that's your bag) without developing a reputation! You can flit in and out of conversations on many and varied topics like a smooth vigilante! For instance, see if you can recognize me from any of the following:
1) Fashion!anon who appreciates the hipstery teal scarf from yesterday's no 1 secret.
2) KnB!anon who is grumpy about Kuroko/Aomine fans throwing Kagami under the bus.
3) Seb Stan anon who can't watch bad movies but keeps seeking them out.
4) One of the many, many overly invested Tolkien anons who make those threads the heights of awesome!
That's a trick question and I'm actually all of the above :)) You'll never see me coming... until I inevitably cave and get that new icon-filled account I obviously yearn for.
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The strange thing for me, though, is that even though I liked livejournal, it still felt a little...off. I'd first gotten into fandom when it was still fan sites and forums, and as that era began to wind down and everything started to center around LJ, I started to lose interest. It's part of why I wound up leaving! It just makes me think that a large part of the reason so many of us are having trouble isn't because tumblr isn't inherently bad -- it's because we were introduced to fandom under a certain set of circumstances, and now we're being forced to adapt to a new set, and it's weird, and we're used to interacting with people in a totally different way.
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 02:08 am (UTC)(link)Even before I left (and partly the reason I did) though, it was becoming increasingly clear that fandom as a whole is a very different entity to what it was five years ago. Instant gratification is up, attention spans are down. If you don't jump on the zeitgeist for a certain fandom in the first twenty minutes, you're too late and no one cares what you think/create. As soon as you do get into something, everyone's into something shiny and new. Fanfics are less stories as they are SJ manifestos. Everything's problematic and even if it's not then it needs a sixty-page meta to justify why you have so much as a passing fondness for it.
You can blame/credit (depending on your POV) Tumblr for that, but honestly it's probably just the way fandom's evolving with the current generation of fans and how they interact with their world.
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 04:03 am (UTC)(link)In a nutshell, yes.
The weirdest part for me is that some of the best fic writers in my fandom migrated to tumblr and promptly stopped writing anything longer than 2 or 3 sentences. If someone had told me 5 years ago that would happen, I would have laughed myself sick.
I know it's an oversimplification, but sometimes I wonder if the continual diet of shiny is making people stupid.
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 06:05 am (UTC)(link)I don't know if it's making people stupid as much as it's making them complacent.
When you can get three-digit notes on Tumblr for a 500 word stream of something that isn't even a drabble, why put the effort into a 5000 word - or god forbid 50,000 word - fic just for a couple of comments on AO3?
I found zero gratification in that, either as a reader or as a creator, so I quit. No one was interested in lengthy, complex fic that a reader needed to engage with on even a slightly deeper level than fluff/PWP/character studies masquerading as fic. And besides, if you didn't write it in the first couple of weeks of a fandom's Tumblr existence then as far as fans were concerned it didn't exist. You'd missed the boat.
It's like anything else; if you don't have to work for something then you see no value in it. Fandom's become very transient that way.
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