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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Even though she's might be a bit too young for the role (although she's 32 to Saldana's 36), I can't help but imagine Lupita Nyong'o as Uhura.

She just exudes warmth, fun, and reminds me so much of Nichelle. I'd really love it if she could play Uhura.

I don't even think the age thing is that big a deal. She's only a year younger than Alice Eve.

Plus she looks more like Nichelle to me so that helps.

[(Anonymous)]

Lupita and Nichelle Nichols look nothing alike to me
Actually, I'd argue that between the two Saldana looks more like her

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/36600000/Star-Trek-The-Original-Series-image-star-trek-the-original-series-36694356-1024-768.jpg

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/static.screenweek.it/2009/4/24/Star-Trek-Zoe-Saldana-Uhura_big.jpg

enough that Nichelle could pass as her grandma now
http://i.imgur.com/0MmYKus.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree but it's a pretty subjective thing so...eh...no biggie.

Body type wise, though, I think Lupita's a lot more like Nichelle.

Saldana's comparatively too slim, IMO.

Also, it's more that I think Lupita exudes the same type of warmth that Nichelle did. It's how they carry themselves which I don't think Saldana matches.

But whatever...my opinion doesn't count for shit anyway since I'm not doing the casting.

[(Anonymous)]

Lupita is as slim as Zoe is. In fact, neither of them has Nichelle's body type nor they have her curves.
It seems that in looking for a Uhura her body type wasn't a priority.


"Also, it's more that I think Lupita exudes the same type of warmth that Nichelle did. It's how they carry themselves which I don't think Saldana matches."

Like you said, it's a pretty subjective thing because Nichelle Nichols thinks she's perfect in the role instead. Can't make everyone happy though.

[(Anonymous)]

Well yeah. It's MY OPINION. I'm typing it so it's clearly MY OPINION.

I do think that, body-wise, Lupita looks more like Nichelle though.

Lupita's bmi is AT LEAST 18.7 (the lowest I've seen) though I've seen it go as high as 20.6 on some sites.

Saldana's is 18.0 (she's 5'7" and by said she weighs 115)

Most people estimate Nichelle's as being at least 19.8.

But again, it's my opinion. I think Lupita looks and holds herself a lot more like Nichelle than Saldana.

Also, no curves my ASS: http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201456/rs_634x1024-140606121623-634.Lupita-Nyongo-Bikini-Hawaii.jl.060614.jpg

Look at that. Lupita is fucking stunning. And has a waist to hip ratio of 0.65!

Compared to Saldana's 0.78.

Lupita is gorgeously curvy like Nichelle.

But that's besides the point.

Looks aren't everything. And like I said, it's the poise and warmth and charisma that both Nichelle and Lupita exude that really works for me.

[(Anonymous)]

It's funny because I just looked up Nichelle's waist and hip measurements and they're:

23 inches and 37 inches, giving her an INCREDIBLE waist to hip ratio of 0.62 --> My god that woman had (and actually STILL has) a rocking body

Which is almost the same as Lupita's (whose waist is one inch larger)

They're also the same height: 5'5"

[(Anonymous)]

Can't believe you actually went looking for the ratio and you are having this argument. You obsession about this is depressing (and quite a bit dehumanizing).
They are all gorgeous ladies. Women come in all shapes and sizes and comparing apples to oranges is stupid.

"Looks aren't everything. "

Really? You seem to be obsessed about the looks and even though Zoe clearly looks more similar to Nichelle in the face, you deem Lupita more similar only for the size of her hips.
Can't say you fit with the cliché completely, though, since you don't seem to include their breasts size in your math. At least.

[(Anonymous)]

Ummm...I went looking for statistics to back up my point.

I didn't realize that googling "name waist hip" now constituted obsession.

Mostly, though, I did it because I took issue with the fact that you claimed Lupita is not curvy. Which, I mean, have you SEEN her? Just needed the math to back me up.

Also "Zoe clearly looks more similar to Nichelle in the face" is just your opinion. I think Lupita looks more like her.

Plus, you seem to be ignoring EVERY. OTHER. PART of my posts -- namely, how I mentioned that the warmth and charisma Nichelle and Lupita share is one reason I'd prefer Lupita as Uhura. Not to mention how they carry themselves. Their poise.

But, no, let's instead call me obsessed for taking five seconds to google some statistics.

Also, if I'm obsessed about looks, what does that say about Zoe? Who splashed her weight on the cover of Allure?

[(Anonymous)]

"Mostly, though, I did it because I took issue with the fact that you claimed Lupita is not curvy."

I never did such a thing. I said that both she and Zoe don't have the same curves Nichelle had, BECAUSE you said Lupita looks like her body type vise.
Of course you take it as me saying that Lupita has no curves which is not surprising because it doesn't seem to even compute to you that slim women can have curves too.


"Plus, you seem to be ignoring EVERY. OTHER. PART of my posts -- namely, how I mentioned that the warmth and charisma Nichelle and Lupita share is one reason I'd prefer Lupita as Uhura. Not to mention how they carry themselves. Their poise."

I'm not ignoring, just not going to dispute your personal opinion on that unless you say it's a fact. In that case, I will tell you that it obviously is not because both Nichelle Nichols and me think that Zoe has these qualities and makes a great Uhura.

[(Anonymous)]

" I said that both she and Zoe don't have the same curves Nichelle had, BECAUSE you said Lupita looks like her body type vise. "

And you're wrong. Lupita DOES have the same curves as Nichelle. They're the same height with the same measurements (although Lupita is ONE inch bigger at the waist).

So...yeah...I'm gonna take issue with you completely ignoring math and claiming that Lupita has the same slim body type as Zoe. She doesn't. She's MUCH MUCH closer to Nichelle. And that's not a matter of opinion -- it's a matter of ratios.

[(Anonymous)]

Da

"And you're wrong. Lupita DOES have the same curves as Nichelle. They're the same height with the same measurements (although Lupita is ONE inch bigger at the waist).
(..)
that's not a matter of opinion -- it's a matter of ratios."

I'm not sure what's your point here, but actually no they don't have the same curves. If breasts still count as curves too then I hate nitpicking but Lupita is an AA cup while Nichelle must be at least a C, if not a D. That alone ruins your 'ratio' calculations.

[(Anonymous)]

Even so though. Zoe Saldana is an A cup which still leaves Lupita MUCH closer to Nichelle's body type than Zoe even with breast size in mind.

But you're right that I didn't consider that, I was thinking more about how Nichelle's a very classic hourglass figure in regards to ratios.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Tbh, I don't even get what's their point anymore but it's gross.

[(Anonymous)]

Point was that other anon said:

"Lupita is as slim as Zoe is. In fact, neither of them has Nichelle's body type nor they have her curves. "

They said Lupita doesn't have Nichelle's curves. Well, I went and looked up the statistics.

Turns out that Lupita is the same height as Nichelle and they have the same hips size and Lupita's waist is only one inch larger.

So...yeah. Maybe you might not want to say someone doesn't have curves because all it takes is a five second google to call them out on their bullshit.

If someone is the same height and has basically the same measurements, it's pretty fucking stupid to try to insist to me that she's not curvy when Nichelle is. I'm not an idiot and am capable of doing my own research, thanks very much.

[(Anonymous)]

But she doesn't have her curves..That's not an insult to say that both she and zoe look different in body type compared to nichelle


And your being a tad hypocrital by taking offense on lupita's behalf when you are the one insulting zoe for her body and making a disgusting nonsense argument about body types once someone disagreed that your fave looks nothing like Nichelle in the face. I mean, she's very feminine to me. Slim but with a hourglass figure to her that pregnancy has made more obvious (look at her hips and cleavage now!)
What's even your problem.

[(Anonymous)]

Where did I say that Zoe wasn't feminine? WHERE DID I SAY THAT? And where did I insult her?

NOWHERE.

I simply pointed out that Lupita and Nichelle have basically the same waist and hip measurements and are of the same height.

So saying that Lupita and Zoe are slim whereas Nichelle is curvy is a poor argument when you look at the stats alone. Unless you're talking about breast size but I was talking about the hourglass shape. Which is what I believe most people are talking about when they say "curvy."

And the other anon is the one who started all this talk about body types. I initially mentioned that Lupita looked more like Nichelle to me (which is my genuine impression) and only brought up the statistics because other anon was trying to insist to me that Lupita and Zoe are slim where Nichelle is curvy. And the math doesn't bear that out.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus Christ, this whole post is creepy.

[(Anonymous)]

The whole thread and argument is. It's really, really weird.

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone else thinking this is one person arguing with her/him self?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm one of the people that actually replied to them and tbh I feel like an idiot because they are probably trolling
Idek..

[(Anonymous)]

I see Lupita Nyong'o stans still want her replace every black actress. I remember the petition to make her play Storm (and fire Halle Berry). There can be only one!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not a stan of Lupita to be honest.

I actually like the new Storm (she looks a lot like Halle).

But I do think she'd make a better Uhura.

Then again, I don't think Saldana had anything great in terms of writing to work with so I can't blame her for that.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually can see why someone would prefer lupita for storm, halle looks nothing like the character.

lupita's imdb page comfirms to me that winning an oscar for your first role before showing if you have range and acting skills with different roles can be a curse. After the hype, few studios will hire expensive actors (oscar winners are) without having that much to see.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not a stan of Lupita to be honest.

your comments above have some symptoms of stanning though.

Lupita and Nichelle Nichols look nothing alike and your argument about 'math' and 'ratio' (wtf) is a text book example of clutching at straws.

[(Anonymous)]

Not a Lupita stan, but come on - replacing Halle Berry as Storm is hardly a new idea. Halle makes a pretty Storm, but that's it. Lupita would HAVE to be an improvement.

Personally, I always wanted Angela Bassett for the role.