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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-09 06:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #3018 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3018 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Gunnerkrigg Court]


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[One Punch Man]


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(Victorian Farm)


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[Jojo's Bizarre Adventure]


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[Totally Spies]


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[The Middle]


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[The Blacklist]


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[Biolabs (Ragnarok Online)]


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[Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, My Little Pony, Steven Universe]


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[One Piece]


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[Vikings]


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[American Horror Story: Freakshow]


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(Major Crimes)


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[Kids in the Hall]


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[Twin Peaks]








Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 036 secrets from Secret Submission Post #431.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom (if you're going to ship politicians, go ahead, but this is just pure politics) ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-09 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
What made Civil War pack such a potent punch was that it was between very close people within a group we were all connected to. And worse it was primarily led by two very close friends who had been through a lot.

MCU-verse Tony and Steve have *never* been close. In fact, the whole point of the Avengers was them fighting, with them all coming together being the climactic change needed to win.

They just haven't earned it yet.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-09 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much exactly what I came here to say. One of the biggest reasons that Civil War was so upsetting (other than the truly terrible, OOC, and nonsensical decisions made by certain characters) was that Cap and Tony were genuinely best friends who thought the world of each other and the Civil War arc tore it apart. Unless their friendship takes some drastic and hasty devlopements in Ultron, Civil War is about two dudes fighting who, at best might respect each other as teammates but aren't exactly warm and fuzzy with each other. I guess the movie can't be worse than the comic arc (well, maybe) but I can't imagine how they're going to make it work.
bur: Captain America being all Sleeping Beauty. (Cap asleep)

[personal profile] bur 2015-04-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe the writers will make them rub more and more against each other and leave it as a clash of personalities.

...erm, I didn't mean to make that sound like slashfic, but I can't bring myself to reword that sentence.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
In a way, I thought the comics version of Civil War did for Iron Man what Dark Knight Returns did for Batman. Miller's 1987 classic exposed the fundamentally fascist underpinnings of the Batman moral universe. At the time we thought Miller was satirically confronting them, but it turns out he's just a fucking fascist. Still, though, pulled the curtains back on that one.

Likewise, there's always been something basically evil in Tony Stark. He's a billionaire war profiteer; that's usually a supervillain job. If he were 20 today, he would ABSOLUTELY be one of those neoreactionary kids who think democracy is illogical and we need a tech sector CEO/dictator. In canon, he was an utter douchebag until he had a life-changing experience and decided he had to become a good person. But underneath it, that douchebag has always been waiting to come out. He really tries to do the right thing, but it's a constant battle between his learned habits, which are good, and his instincts, which are evil. It's why you can't trust him after two drinks. It's why Operation Galactic Storm ended the way it did. It's why he bought so deeply into Morgan Le Fay's medieval brainwashing. There is something deep in Stark's DNA that tells him he is John Galt, that he has the right to decide for everyone else how things should be because he's just that special. And he knows, awake and sober, that that's wrong, but that voice is always there, and some days it sounds awfully persuasive.

Civil War is what happens when Tony loses the battle against that side of himself. With utter moral rectitude singing in his veins, he declares that things are out of control, that he will restore order by any means necessary, and that people can no longer be trusted with freedom because he knows what's best for them, and anyone not on board with this plan will be sent to a space gulag.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-10 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The neoreactionary movement (a.k.a. neoreaction, NRx, the Dark Enlightenment, the alt-right movement) is a loosely-defined cluster of Internet-based political thinkers who wish to return human society to forms of government older than liberal democracy

...And here I hoped you were just making words up o.0