[ SECRET POST #3019 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3019 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #431.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Mythology (Arthur, Greek/Roman, Norse, etc.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm always curious when Yuletide comes along and people ask for these fandoms just what kind of expectation there is in it.

Like, I was unaware that Hades/Persephone had a general way of being written (as one requester wanted something different). I wasn't surprised to see how annoyed people were with trying to get the Norse!Loki and not Marvel!Loki though.

Exactly what is entailed with the Arthurian Mythology? Should you have read Le Morte d'Arthur, the original Welsh stuff, the French/German romances? Or is general cultural osmosis good enough?

For Norse mythology, is there an expectation of reading the Eddas, etc?

Is there a fandom for Egyptian mythology at all (beyond the few people in Yuletide)?

I know people can be fans without being truly well versed in something but I was wondering what the general consensus was in these types of fandoms. Are there forums I don't know about? Or shorthand or anything like that?

Basically, what are these fandoms like?

Re: Mythology (Arthur, Greek/Roman, Norse, etc.)

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, you can probably get away with not reading specific major things. There are so many variations that most mythology fans I've met are pretty laid back simply because there *are* so many, and no real way of saying "This version is the true one!"

Re: Mythology (Arthur, Greek/Roman, Norse, etc.)

[silverr]

If the requestor doesn't specify, you're probably free to choose your own source material. It's also sometimes possible to read between the lines of the request; someone who says they're fond of AUs is probably more flexible than someone who sprinkles in phrases in the source language. (Seeing what the requestor has received/written in the past can be helpful, too.)

Some exchanges might also be like Yuletide in that you can ask the mods to get a bit more info out of the requestor.

Re: Mythology (Arthur, Greek/Roman, Norse, etc.)

[(Anonymous)]

The thing I've found about myths is that most of them have had professional fanfic written about them for centuries now (Arthurian myth, as you point out, being a key example). Not liking how most people write Hades/Persephone could refer to the various bits of canon or adaptations or continuations as much as to previous fandom writers on the exchange (and in that particular case, probably does unless they specified, given the whole argument about the pomegranate myth). Most people I know who write myth fanfic just pick and choose their own bits of 'canon', tell people up front about it, and put their own spin on it from there. I mean, if it's good enough for opera, it's good enough for fanfic, right?

I've read various bits of various myths that I use (usually in translation), and I've used essentially cliff notes on others to get the key points, because interpretations of personality and characterisation tend to vary wildly even within the sources (depending on which mythology we're talking about here, but the likes of, say, Greek or Arthurian, you can pretty much go nuts).

I don't know. Most myth fans I've talked to have been fairly laid back, barring sore topics like 'Hades is a villain' or 'Loki is a Satan-analogue' or 'such-a-book/film/comic completely destroyed such-a-god/hero's characterisation from the myths'. In some places, the Christianisation of myths can be a bit of a sore spot as well. Depends on what kind of discussions you get into. Fic itself is usually relatively safe, though. A lot of the audience is running off pop-cultural osmosis as much as anything, and people tend to specify which versions they're talking about otherwise.

Clarification

[(Anonymous)]

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I'm not talking about Yuletide. I'm just talking about the fandoms at large. Obviously anyone can be part of the fandom with whatever level of engagement they want or knowledge they have. I'm just curious what the general expectation is.

Like, in a conversation about Arthur, if you start quoting Le Morte d'Arthur, do you expect people will know where it's from or are you going to say what it's from, maybe who wrote it, where it fits into the main mythology, etc.

Like, for instance, most book!fans have a reasonable expectation of people having read Hobbit and LOTR but not Silmarillion or UT or HoME. But they might also expect a passing knowledge of some of the big things in Silmarillion and generally no knowledge of HoME.

Are there similar things in the other fandoms? Are there fan theories running around about certain characters? Or generally accepted head-canons? General pet peeves about movie adaptions? Or is it super individualized and there really isn't a "fandom" so much as a love of lore? That kind of thing.

Re: Clarification

[(Anonymous)]

I'd expect people to know the basics of the myth [I.E. Who the major players are, and the major events that happen], but beyond that I wouldn't care.

Honestly, I'm not sure you can really call the mythology fandom a "fandom" in the sense you seem to be trying for. It's mostly just lore love, with occasional rps based on it/series based on it [though those tend to be actual fandoms in their own right.]