[ SECRET POST #3019 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3019 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #431.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Ask about a fandom

[philstar22]

Ask about any particular fandom you'd like to know more about or are interested in.

Asking mostly because I bought this new book that looked interesting, and I'm wondering if anyone else has read it.

Violette Malan books

[philstar22]

So my question is if anyone has read the Dhulyn and Parno books by Violette Malan.

I bought the first book because the two main characters were a man and a woman who were friends and partners, and the reviews talked about complex characterization.

But I'm wondering if anyone has read it and can tell me if it is actually any good?

Mythology (Arthur, Greek/Roman, Norse, etc.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm always curious when Yuletide comes along and people ask for these fandoms just what kind of expectation there is in it.

Like, I was unaware that Hades/Persephone had a general way of being written (as one requester wanted something different). I wasn't surprised to see how annoyed people were with trying to get the Norse!Loki and not Marvel!Loki though.

Exactly what is entailed with the Arthurian Mythology? Should you have read Le Morte d'Arthur, the original Welsh stuff, the French/German romances? Or is general cultural osmosis good enough?

For Norse mythology, is there an expectation of reading the Eddas, etc?

Is there a fandom for Egyptian mythology at all (beyond the few people in Yuletide)?

I know people can be fans without being truly well versed in something but I was wondering what the general consensus was in these types of fandoms. Are there forums I don't know about? Or shorthand or anything like that?

Basically, what are these fandoms like?

Re: Mythology (Arthur, Greek/Roman, Norse, etc.)

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, you can probably get away with not reading specific major things. There are so many variations that most mythology fans I've met are pretty laid back simply because there *are* so many, and no real way of saying "This version is the true one!"

Re: Mythology (Arthur, Greek/Roman, Norse, etc.)

[silverr]

If the requestor doesn't specify, you're probably free to choose your own source material. It's also sometimes possible to read between the lines of the request; someone who says they're fond of AUs is probably more flexible than someone who sprinkles in phrases in the source language. (Seeing what the requestor has received/written in the past can be helpful, too.)

Some exchanges might also be like Yuletide in that you can ask the mods to get a bit more info out of the requestor.

Re: Mythology (Arthur, Greek/Roman, Norse, etc.)

[(Anonymous)]

The thing I've found about myths is that most of them have had professional fanfic written about them for centuries now (Arthurian myth, as you point out, being a key example). Not liking how most people write Hades/Persephone could refer to the various bits of canon or adaptations or continuations as much as to previous fandom writers on the exchange (and in that particular case, probably does unless they specified, given the whole argument about the pomegranate myth). Most people I know who write myth fanfic just pick and choose their own bits of 'canon', tell people up front about it, and put their own spin on it from there. I mean, if it's good enough for opera, it's good enough for fanfic, right?

I've read various bits of various myths that I use (usually in translation), and I've used essentially cliff notes on others to get the key points, because interpretations of personality and characterisation tend to vary wildly even within the sources (depending on which mythology we're talking about here, but the likes of, say, Greek or Arthurian, you can pretty much go nuts).

I don't know. Most myth fans I've talked to have been fairly laid back, barring sore topics like 'Hades is a villain' or 'Loki is a Satan-analogue' or 'such-a-book/film/comic completely destroyed such-a-god/hero's characterisation from the myths'. In some places, the Christianisation of myths can be a bit of a sore spot as well. Depends on what kind of discussions you get into. Fic itself is usually relatively safe, though. A lot of the audience is running off pop-cultural osmosis as much as anything, and people tend to specify which versions they're talking about otherwise.

Clarification

[(Anonymous)]

SA
I'm not talking about Yuletide. I'm just talking about the fandoms at large. Obviously anyone can be part of the fandom with whatever level of engagement they want or knowledge they have. I'm just curious what the general expectation is.

Like, in a conversation about Arthur, if you start quoting Le Morte d'Arthur, do you expect people will know where it's from or are you going to say what it's from, maybe who wrote it, where it fits into the main mythology, etc.

Like, for instance, most book!fans have a reasonable expectation of people having read Hobbit and LOTR but not Silmarillion or UT or HoME. But they might also expect a passing knowledge of some of the big things in Silmarillion and generally no knowledge of HoME.

Are there similar things in the other fandoms? Are there fan theories running around about certain characters? Or generally accepted head-canons? General pet peeves about movie adaptions? Or is it super individualized and there really isn't a "fandom" so much as a love of lore? That kind of thing.

Re: Clarification

[(Anonymous)]

I'd expect people to know the basics of the myth [I.E. Who the major players are, and the major events that happen], but beyond that I wouldn't care.

Honestly, I'm not sure you can really call the mythology fandom a "fandom" in the sense you seem to be trying for. It's mostly just lore love, with occasional rps based on it/series based on it [though those tend to be actual fandoms in their own right.]

Re: Ask about a fandom

[(Anonymous)]

What's the name of the book?

Re: Ask about a fandom

[philstar22]

I mentioned it above. It is a fantasy series by Violette Malan. The first is called The Sleeping God.

Fic writer Esama: curious about what happened to her

[fingalsanteater]

She wrote in various fandoms, but she wrote many odd but pretty good Harry Potter shipping cross-over fics. (Like Harry Potter/Ronan Dex from SGA, Harry Potter/Mycroft Holmes.) When I tried to look her up to see if she was still working on some WIPs I was interested in, I just found a bunch of people wondering why she'd deleted her tumblr. Anyone know? She seemed to be something of a Bnf.

Re: Fic writer Esama: curious about what happened to her

[(Anonymous)]

She was eaten by a grue.

Re: Fic writer Esama: curious about what happened to her

[manzana]

I dunno about her tumblr, but she seems to be active over at Archive of Our Own.

http://archiveofourown.org/users/esama/pseuds/esama

Steven Universe

[(Anonymous)]

Thinking of getting into this show ever since someone linked me to this
(spoiler warning for episode 49): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JARVfb-FBg

Tell me stuff about it!

Re: Steven Universe

[(Anonymous)]

It's a show about genderless rock aliens who look like women who take care of a half alien/half human child of their ex-leader. It's soft and pastel-y and has some catchy songs.

Re: Steven Universe

[(Anonymous)]

Garnet is best gem.

Anyway, it's a pretty fun show! Steven is pretty great, actually matures throughout the show and learns from his mistakes.

The ovverreaching plot arc is pretty neat imo, and it can get into pretty heavy stuff for a kid's show. The secondary characters are varied and get a bit if attention. The music is fantastic!

Re: Steven Universe

[insanenoodlyguy]

Ugh, spoilering you with the climax of a series finale is something I find really annoying. I don't know why people keep doing it, sure it's interesting but now a big payoff is gone! I realize some people who get into shows care a lot less then me about this, but meh

Re: Steven Universe

[blitzwing]

The fandom is pretty wanky. Gender and race wank over the gems, plus a segment of fans on Tumblr that are vocally against other fans creating any NSFW fic or art.

SNK/Attack on Titan

[(Anonymous)]

I mostly just want to get into it cuz there is a lot of slash fic and I need some new fic. Is it worth it?

Re: SNK/Attack on Titan

[(Anonymous)]

No. Unless you like the idea of a man abusing or being cruel to a boy (Ereri)

Re: SNK/Attack on Titan

[(Anonymous)]

Not really. The art is really terrible for the first several volumes, the plot became a mess rather quickly, they still haven't gotten to the fucking basement, and most of the characters are either annoying or bland as hell. But your mileage may vary on that.

It would probably just be easier to read the fic since most are AU anyway.

Re: SNK/Attack on Titan

[(Anonymous)]

The show might be worth it (I think it's fun) but the fandom and fic most definitely aren't. But even if you do read the fic, you barely even need to watch the show/read the manga because most people tend to write really shitty and OOC modern day AUs anyway that don't really have anything to do with canon

Re: SNK/Attack on Titan

[(Anonymous)]

The manga was okay for a while, but over the past year or so has descended into convoluted, repetitive political 'drama' that is going nowhere but around in circles.

The fandom is a batshit cesspool of toxic idiots, and about 90% of the fics are college/coffee shop/trans AUs (sometimes all three in one fic).

I suppose it depends on whether crazies and 'edgy' fanfic is your thing.

Re: SNK/Attack on Titan

[blitzwing]

I think it's worth it nonny. It's a pretty big fandom, so while there is proportionately a lot of AUs and crapfics, it has a lot of gems and decent stuff. People complain about the art, but I never had a problem with it (it has kind of a messy look to it) and in its defense, it's one of the few anime/manga where there's a lot of variety in the characters noses.

It has a lot of good characters.

The fandom has its toxic batshit fans, but honestly? Pretty much any fandom that was born onto Tumblr as the main fandom place as opposed to forums or LJ/DW is going to have a fair share. It's not hard to avoid the wank and the drama. eta: unless you're an Ereri shipper, in which case your ship tags are going to be spammed with furry porn by a butthurt kinkshaming 15-year old. If you're just looking for fic though, Ao3 has it so the tags aren't that relevant.

It has one of the best kinkmemes I've seen.

Re: SNK/Attack on Titan

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. It started out very strong, but it sort of used up all its momentum at once and it's been meandering ever downward for a long time now. The fic's not that great, and neither are the ships-- the juggernaut is Levi/Eren, but Eren/Armin is big too, and the stans for both of them are insane. (Armin stans in general are fucking insufferable.) Levi/Erwin is decently popular, and I've seen some good fic for that, at least?

I mean, like with any fandom, you've got the jokes that have been beaten to death about thirty times (lol horse-face Jean!), the coffeeshop AUs, the out-of-place SJW wank...but if you don't mind all that, I suppose there are worse things you could get into. I actually suggest just watching the anime, though I'm sure I'd be murdered for saying so. There's a lot less nonsense to slog through, and it looks about a million times better.