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fandomsecrets2015-04-12 03:20 pm
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)But otherwise, cosplay policing is pretty shitty, yes.
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 12:33 am (UTC)(link)Yeah, although it seems some cases of too-thin Rose fan art are just inexperienced artists who haven't drawn fat people much before. I don't think screaming at inexperienced artists for not already being good at something they only just started doing is gonna be very helpful.
Maybe I'm taking the policing of Rose's appearance thing a bit personally though, since I'm a fat woman with a similar body type to Rose when she's not pregnant, and it's making me a bit uncomfortable when drawing her like that is dancing on the edge of the risk of being called fatphobic, even though that's what she looks like in the freaking source material.
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This is (sadly) very true. If an inexperienced artist isn't used to handling concrit/critique just yet, a really vitriolic, "punch down" response is, more often than not, likely to convince them to not even bother trying to draw X thing again any time soon, if ever*.
Granted, there is a considerable difference between "I think this picture of Rose Quartz is very lovely, though the only thing that I feel could use improvement/change is her body size/shape, so it's closer to the show. I suggest looking at references on the SU wiki" and "[insert typical SJW strawman verbal attack laced with fatphobic accusations here]". It's all in how you approach the situation, imo. Something something more bees/flies with honey than vinegar.
*(And if the artist completely shuts down any polite concrit/gets super defensive about their choices in an indignant matter, then learn to pick battles and just leave them alone in their echo chamber)
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)Yeesh, this.
Although even better might be to point them towards live/photo reference. I used to be an inexperienced artist as a kid, and at some point I imitated the style of some comics I read back then, and that led to having to unlearn a bunch of stuff later. And I had it less bad than many of my peers learning to draw (at least I was bright enough to avoid those ugly "how to draw manga" guides). Imitating pre-existing styles gets "safer" once you have some experience on your own, but using that as a primary basis in early stages of learning can easily lead to lacking originality while copying someone else's mistakes. Plus the copy-of-a-copy detail loss effect.
Kind of a pity that lots of live/photo gesture drawing references found online tend to mainly feature thin young women with "classically beautiful" proportions, and probably posed in weirdly sexualised and utterly impractical ways...
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 05:47 am (UTC)(link)It'd suck if they started drawing her skinny in the show but fans can and should be able to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they're not being arseholes about it.