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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-21 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #3030 ]


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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-04-21 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, that's what I thought as well.

Okay, so not always, but I do always fear the gay couple in any movie/tv show is going to die because drama.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-22 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
YUP. This seems a relevant quote, from E. M. Forster when he wrote Maurice:

"A happy ending was imperative. I shouldn’t have bothered to write otherwise. I was determined that in fiction anyway two men should fall in love and remain in it for the ever and ever that fiction allows, and in this sense Maurice and Alec still roam in the greenwood.”

That book was written in 1914. It frustrates me that it's still relevant a hundred years later.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-04-22 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a beautiful quote and a good point! I guess it goes to show that we've made a lot of progress but still have more to go.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-22 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, not gonna lie, after reading Maurice I got a LOT bitterer about things like Brokeback Mountain, to the point that I joked if you want to make a gay story straight people will love, make sure it's full of buckets of angst about how those queers can never be together, and then have one of them die. (Bonus points if they die in an appropriately gay manner, such as via bashing or AIDS.)

--Rogan
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-04-22 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I find Brokeback Mountain to be a solid film (not a masterpiece, but good) but I feel you; gay couples often get the shaft (pun absolutely intentional) in movies.

I don't mind tragedy! In some cases it really appeals to me, and I don't think gay characters should never ever have tragic back-stories or endings, but...it's so cliche and depressing at this point. I LOVE it when shows or movies do something different even though it would be totally plausible for them to go the tragic route. (Spartacus is about the only one that comes to mind atm.)
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-22 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
gay couples often get the shaft

OHOHO I SEE WHAT U DID THAR.

Yeah, in my case, I'm pretty solidly a Earn Your Happy Ending person, and queer/trans tragedy has grown increasingly unpalatable to me. (I blame too many English classes.) It's like, oh wow, a story involving gay people that has mainstream success I WONDER WHO'LL DIE.

I read some snarky quote somewhere that said the only thing in literature worse than a happy homosexual was a happy atheist. I like my stories to have both.

--Rogan