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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-21 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #3030 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3030 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, please outline for me how saying "I'm such [pairing] trash" is clearly and objectively a reference to the use of trash as an insult for the lower class, because I in no way see it.

"trash" has a well-known cultural background of being used as an insulting method of referral to lower-class/poor people in the us. trailer trash, white trash, calling poc or immigrants trash, these are all extremely common and well-known things. if you call a person trash, those are what most people will think of first. the adjective "trashy" implies a lack of class or decorum, things which tend to be associated with the poor, true or not.

it's not a positive term when used in reference to human beings and brings to mind negative stereotypes in the minds of most people.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
yes, i'm not pretending it's a positive word. it's an insult, of course it's an insult, and it's used to insult all sorts of people in all sorts of ways. it's a negative word.

what i'm arguing against is that it's a slur against a specific group, or more broadly, against the idea that it is morally wrong to talk about (for instance) "Hydra Trash Party" because its use in such a way is attempting to reclaim a word that is specifically a slur against lower class people. and it can't be used in a way that's divorced from that association, and if you're using it, it's classist.

if it was a "Hydra White Trash Party" or a "Hydra Trailer Trash Party" i could certainly see your point of view...
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-22 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
And if you'd been called trash all your life, trailer trash, ghetto trash, white trash black trash Mexican trash, laughed at, told that you were just a welfare queen in waiting, pieces of trash like you should die and quit popping out kids for "hard-working people" to support, would you feel comfortable joining the Hydra Trash Party? Would you laugh and think calling yourself and each other "trash" was good fun?

Or would your skin crawl? No offense, but don't bother answering if haven't endured a life of being called trash because of your class-status and/or race. You won't know the answer.
Edited 2015-04-22 07:00 (UTC)