[ SECRET POST #3030 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3030 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think a banana is always a fruit, and is never a slur against Asians? A crow is just a bird, never a racial term, frog is always an amphibian and not a slur meaning a French person, kimchi and kraut have no ethnic connotations, and neither does the word oreo?

perhaps. at the same time, i would find it difficult to object to someone having a frog party, unless they were wearing berets and making lots of stupid jokes about surrender.

First, if you could, expand on what you mean by "inextricably connected" in this context, because it sounds like a weasel term where you'll go "but it's not inextricably connected". Second, specify what you would take as evidence of it being so connected.

sure, that's fair, "inextricable" is maybe not a useful word there. but what i would say is some explanation for what's going on here that goes beyond the mere fact of them using the same words. that gives some grounds for regarding the usage of "trash" in fandom as being materially the same as its use as a classist insult or in some material way harmful. is that a more reasonable standard do you think?

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is that a more reasonable standard do you think?

I thought it was better at first, but it's opening up the can of worms of "a slur used in a non-stereotype-reinforcing fashion is ok" issue again, and I'd rather not go through a repeat of that.

Multiple people have came forth and said that to them, the word trash, when used toward human beings and not literal waste, has a clear and inextricable association as a classist slur and oftentimes a racialized classist slur.

If the word, as used towards humans, is historically and currently a slur, it doesn't matter in what way fandom is using it, it's not appropriate. You yourself have said that it is not okay to use a slur in any way, even if it's in a non-slur fashion.