[ SECRET POST #3031 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3031 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I understand that this is a generalisation and based on perception, not reality, but I wince whenever I see it. Yes, some British people have bad teeth. However, with free NHS dental care for those in education, pregnant women, the unemployed/on benefits and the elderly I would say that there are a lot more people with access to dentists and orthodontists than there are in other countries without systems like the NHS. Even though employed people like me have to pay for our treatment, it is still possible to pay in installments (hello root canal and tooth capping, ugh) making it affordable.

So I guess my point is, please don't generalise about the state of British dentistry from a few poor examples? It's another stupid stereotype that doesn't need enforcement.

[(Anonymous)]

People might qualify for free NHS dental treatment, but finding a dental practice that isn't exclusively private and is willing to take on new patients is a whole different thing. That's why there are people queueing for hours, sometimes days when a new NHS dentist opens in some areas, just for the chance to get on their books.

[(Anonymous)]

I take your point, but treatment is available even if you have to travel to get to a dentist. I can only speak to my experience as you can to yours, but I've lived in a major city, a smaller but still large town and a charming seaside town that has an influx of university students every year and I've never had problems joining an NHS practice.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Not everyone is able to travel, especially in rural areas with a lack of public transport.

I agree the whole US vs UK teeth things is bullshit though. UK dentists just aren't as obsessed by cosmetic "perfection".

[(Anonymous)]

Like I said, I can only speak about my own experience. My point was though, that more of the British population have access to dentists than in other countries, like America, because of the NHS. Access to the NHS because of where you live is another issue. It would be better for everybody if the public transport in this country was better, but that's a problem caused by lack of government spending.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Actually access to NHS dentists also suffers from the changes the government made to dentists' contracts (much the same way as they altered OOH GP services) and the fees they could charge. Many dentists realized they could make a lot more money on different contracts and chose not to offer NHS services from their practices at all, hence why when a new NHS practice opens up you get a lot of people trying to sign up. If you're in an area where the majority of dentists have chosen not to offer NHS services, then access is an issue whether you can travel or not.

[(Anonymous)]

Pregnant women, the unemployed/on benefits, children and the elderly all get free or greatly reduced dental and medical care here in the US. They have for years. The problem is our lower middle class/working poor. They don't get squat.

[blitzwing]

the unemployed/on benefits [...] all get free or greatly reduced dental and medical care here in the US.

No, they don't. Did you miss the part where the Supreme Court struck down the provision in the Affordable Care Act that forced states to expand Medicaid? Medicaid is what covers medical and dental care for most poor or unemployed people.

And in some states, Medicaid hasn't covered dental for adults in a decade anyway. One "free dental care day!" event draws thousands of people, because an event like that occurs rarely.

People, including people with zero income, still die in the U.S because of lack of medical/dental coverage.

[(Anonymous)]

Huh, funny, I have MANY unemployed and disabled friends in US who have struggled for years to get any kind of dental or medical care. One of them had to answer detailed intrusive questions about her periods and how often she needed people to help her wipe her bum after using the toilet to get the disability benefits she needed.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a friend who's long-term unemployed, mostly due to mental health problems. He had to have all his teeth pulled and replaced with dentures, at the age of 60, because he couldn't afford proper dental care.

[(Anonymous)]

I am on disability in the USA, and I can get a small amount of non-specialized dental care at reduced cost. It's not enough to make up for years of no dental care before. I have terrible gum disease.

And considering how spread out the USA is, lack of access due to location can be a bigger problem here than in the UK.

And you know what people will tell you here if you talk about real socialized medicine or increased welfare spending on the state level? Supposedly it will attract "the wrong kind of people." Meanwhile my part of the state is full of people, young and old, with serious oral health problems.

Seeing this had made me a very hardline leftist by American standards.