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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-22 04:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #3031 ]


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erinptah: (Default)

[personal profile] erinptah 2015-04-22 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Sherlock fandom. An extensive writeup, for anyone else who wants to rubberneck.
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[personal profile] sapphireblack 2015-04-22 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
jfc, what a trainwreck.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy shit. I got out of this fandom at exactly the right time, seems like.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-04-22 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG. I used to follow a couple of those people. I didn't realize they were crazy.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
GDI Tumblr, liking fics of stuff is not the same as liking it real life. Why must you insist on ignoring that?

[personal profile] ex_mek82 2015-04-23 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
... Holy shit. D:

I've seen some fandom wank, but that's a straight up trainwreck.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, WTF is going on with people on tumblr constantly linking pedophilia to everything?

Incest ships: pedophilia!
Noncon/dubcon: pedophilia!
Ships with large age differences: pedophilia!

It's like they want so badly for people to be as offended as possible that they jump to the most offensive thing they can think of and tack it onto everything they dislike.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
SA

Oh, wow, and apparently, BDSM = pedophilia, too!

What the fucking fuck.

Like I am actually fucking angry at this.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
....wait, what? That's...wow. And tumblr wonders why people think it's full of cray cray.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

There's also apparently a rift between "Toplockers" (people who think Sherlock would top John) and "Bottomlockers" (people who think John would top Sherlock), with the Bottomlockers accusing Toplockers of supporting...you guessed it...pedophilia.

It really seems like it's just, "I don't like this kink/headcanon/pairing/interpretation. I will call it pedophilia." And they're so disconnected from actual social issues that it doesn't even occur to them how wrong it might be to do that.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yeah, it really does. The worst part is there are some popular ships that really *do* have pedophillic* overtones that you'll get jumped all over if you dare to point that out.

*As one character either has the mind of a child, if not actually *being* a child

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Relevantly, I just got to that part in the Sherlock wank write-up. Apparently, a lot of the people who've accused others of being into pedophilia are into Fawnlock, which fits snugly into the "mind of a child" mold.

God, these people.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I'd actually been referring to a character in a different fandom but...gdi Tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
And Sherlock isn't really a fandom you'd be most likely to find them in, because that show doesn't have ANY significant characters under late-20s or so, that I can see. So anyone wanting to do underage stuff there has to really go out of their way.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2015-04-23 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's like they want so badly for people to be as offended as possible that they jump to the most offensive thing they can think of and tack it onto everything they dislike.

Yep. You've hit the nail on the head, here.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

It's making me really, really angry. Pedophilia is a specific and terrible thing. Pedophiles who act on their desires cause real harm to real children. Using pedophilia this way is fucking offensive as all shit, and is a slap in the face to people who've actually been victims of it.

They can bleet about "rape apologists" all they want. They're the ones exploiting the suffering of fucking children to justify harassing people they don't like.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Considering they've been exploiting various groups to shout "racist!", "homophobic!" and just about any other kind of bigotry since before tumblr was even around, it doesn't surprise. Tumblr just made it worse.

I just hope that one day they'll look back on what they did - and feel ashamed of themselves for it.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Maybe I just got lucky in my fandoms. I went through a ship war or two, but I never saw that crap.

It seems like an escalation though. "Racist" and "homophobe" aren't packing the same punch that they used to, so they had to find something even worse to accuse people of.

And I hope they learn. I really do. But I'm afraid they won't. I mean, winterfox hasn't, and she's been playing these kind of games for over a decade. She may have finally overreached, but who she is ain't gonna change at this point.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

That's probably it, tbh, since fights on tumblr seem to boil down to "Whoever manages to call the other the worst thing first wins".

I try to remain hopeful since a lot people doing it are young and may just not have enough experience to really understand the full impact of what they're saying. At least, that's what I tell myself.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
As a child rape survivor, all I can say is so very very much this.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
I appreciate your use of the phrase "pedophiles who act on their desires". Most people don't, and that's dismaying.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
SA

Add "a character looks young" to the list.

I'm seething. This is so unbelievably awful. These people are rotten.

This actually reminds me of civil rights debates.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-23 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
The people against granting whatever rights (or, you know, actually acknowledging other people are, well, people) always bring up animals - "What are we going to do next, give animals the right to vote?", "If we make this legal, the next thing you know, people will be wanting to marry animals."

And I know it's a derailing tactic, a false slippery-slope argument, and a way to equate women/minorities/LGBT with animals, but it always makes me cringe.