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⌈ Secret Post #3033 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Kushiel's Legacy]

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[The Young Sherlock Holmes]

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[Blake's 7]

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[Doc Martin]

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07. http://i.imgur.com/XWQxPJy.jpg?2
[linked for close up shot of naked butt]

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[Disney]

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[Phantom of the Opera/Twilight]

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[Captain America]

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[Spec Ops: The Line]

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13. [SPOILERS for Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn]

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14. [SPOILERS for Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Episode VII)]

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15. [WARNING for incest]

[Folgers Coffee Commercial]

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16. [WARNING for suicide, emotional abuse]

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17. [WARNING for suicide]

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18. [WARNING for abusive parenting, domestic abuse]

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Okay, I saw A New Hope as a child – they were releasing The Empire Strikes Back, so they showed A New Hope in theaters again. It was 1980 and I was five and the universe opened up. I became aware of the existence of the universe and what imagination could do. So, yeah, nothing was ever really going to compare to that experience. (For people who were older, the experience was different – the 70s in the US was not a good time, the Vietnam War, Watergate, the oil crisis, people were very bitter and this escapist, hopeful film came along.)

Then the mythology built on itself through the original trilogy and people went to see them again and again. And then sixteen years passed, giving people a lot of time to come up with their own theories and for things to become entrenched.

The prequels had a lot to live up to. And they didn’t, for me. I don’t hate them, but I don’t think they were very well done. They were too specific about some things (the Force, the Jedi, etc.) – mysterious really works well for certain concepts. They made the Jedi dicks. They retconned stuff from the original trilogy. They rendered some of the decisions regarding Luke and Leia unspeakably stupid (which I guess was okay since neither Darth Vader nor the Emperor ever wondered why there was a boy with the last name Skywalker living on the planet where Anakin grew up or why Anakin’s droids ended up where they did). They made Anakin a child killer (so I cannot reconcile that with the end of Return of the Jedi).

All that said, I'm not sure I care about the new movies. But rest assured, they will piss somebody off.

"They rendered some of the decisions regarding Luke and Leia unspeakably stupid (which I guess was okay since neither Darth Vader nor the Emperor ever wondered why there was a boy with the last name Skywalker living on the planet where Anakin grew up or why Anakin’s droids ended up where they did). They made Anakin a child killer (so I cannot reconcile that with the end of Return of the Jedi)."

See, I thought that the prequels FIXED the whole Luke and Leia issue because Anakin thinks they're dead. He has NO REASON to ever go and look for Luke and Tatooine is a backwater that the Empire doesn't really give a shit about (Luke even says that everything is so far from here). And given that Anakin's mother died on Tatooine, I have little doubt he would have avoided it like the plague.

I'm not sure what the issue is with the droids, though? They look like regular droids and C3PO's memory was even wiped at the end of the prequels.

I kind of don't get the issue of Anakin being a child killer either. He readily participated in the destruction of Alderaan (hell, he was the one holding Leia) and millions of children were on that planet. Even if he wasn't the one holding the lightsaber in that case, I don't see how it's any less awful from a moral standpoint than what he did to the Jedi kids. At least with the Jedi, you can argue that he might have had a "good of the many outweighs the good of the few" motive -- wherein he saw their loss as necessary sacrifices to ending the war.

Because Anakin's not the kind of person to seek revenge on someone who has wronged him. Wait, yes, he totally is that kind. Which, hey, there are a few on Tatooine. And if he went looking for Obi-Wan, who also didn't change his last name, he might find him on, hey, the planet where he grew up, which might make him wonder why. Or he might look for Owen.

The droids' personalities are pretty distinctive and first they are with Leia on that ship and then with Luke. Since Luke looks a little (or a lot) like Anakin, even the visual would make me kind of wonder.

And while the destruction of Alderaan is horrible, it's also remote, at a distance, not specifically by his own hand. And it's kind of by the Empire rather than just one person.

"Because Anakin's not the kind of person to seek revenge on someone who has wronged him." -- To be fair, he already got revenge (he killed the whole tribe remember). He has no reason to go back except that going back would reopen those old wounds. And I don't imagine he's eager to reface that pain.

Also, Obi-Wan was hermit -- I doubt anyone in the Empire cared about the hermit "old Ben" or even knew of him in the first place.

The droids are also in service to Organa and I doubt Bail would have easily let them cross paths with Anakin, given that he's got Leia as well.

And Alderaan being remote doesn't really change moral culpability you know. And the participation of the Empire, while it does reduce Anakin's individual responsibility, doesn't make up for the fact that literally BILLIONS of unarmed civilians were killed.

I just don't see how you can argue that Anakin killing the Jedi children makes him beyond redemption when his participation in the destruction of Alderaan was equally horrific.

They weren't the only ones.

He was a fairly powerful Jedi who trained Anakin (and almost killed him). I think maybe he was noteworthy.

I meant the killing was remote, removed, not the planet.

The means, method, intent, and responsibility all make me feel differently about the two. Plus, the movie didn't show the people of Alderaan (which makes a difference about how I feel about fictional people getting killed).

I'm with you, I was in high school in 1977, and Star Wars really did open the universe up for us. We went to see it over and over in the cinema. Which is something that has changed these days. We had no means of watching it any other way, VHS didn't even exist.

I felt crushing disappointment at the prequels. More than anything they were just silly. I think Jar Jar Binks was unforgivable, and it was clear the actors just weren't into it, no chemistry at all.

I am hopeful about the new film, but also worried.

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