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⌈ Secret Post #3035 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Being Pro-Censorship

[(Anonymous)]

da

When a school specifically decides not to a put a certain book in their library and even enacts a rule against that book being in the library, "banned" is the appropriate word.

If a school specifically disallows To Kill a Mockingbird or Harry Potter then yes, it's "banned". Especially when the reasons are not "not age appropriate" but because of ethical controversy.

Re: Being Pro-Censorship

[(Anonymous)]

No. It's not banned. You can bring the book on campus and no one's going to punish you. You can find it off campus and no one's going to punish you. You can go to the public library and it's there. You can download it off the damned internet and read it if you want to.

They've closed off one specific means of accessing the book. That's not at all the same as banning it. There's a plethora of ways to find it and no punishment or bar from doing so.

Like, seriously:

When a school specifically decides not to a put a certain book in their library... "banned" is the appropriate word

by this argument, it would follow that every school has banned the vast majority of books published in human history

Re: Being Pro-Censorship

[blitzwing]

It's not just that they decide not to buy it. It's that they specifically forbid it--sometimes they purge old copies, and they refuse to take any that people donate to the school library.

Like if I decide to donate King & King, Heather Has Two Mommies and And Tango Makes Three to my local elementary school, and they refuse those books because they're not allowed in the school library, than those books are banned from the school library. It's not just that some librarian decided to buy The Velveteen Rabbit instead.

And in that example, it's a pretty good indication that the elementary school is banning LGBT-positive books from the school's library.

Re: Being Pro-Censorship

[(Anonymous)]

Well, first, those are kind of issues that libraries deal with regardless of political constraints. There's a limited amount of space in libraries, so you have to prune sometimes. Any decision to have a book is implicitly a decision not to have another book. I agree that's not what's going on in a case like this, but there are constraints on library systems in general.

Second, it's accurate to say that they're not allowed in the school library. I don't think it's accurate to say that the book is banned, because it's not banned. It's not blocked, proscribed, or punished. It's not prohibited and reading it isn't punished. It's removed from this one specific system and place. That's not a good thing, but it's not the same as saying it's banned.

I can tell this is about to become an argument about the precise definition of the word "banned", though. So if you want to just say that this is what "banned" means to you, fine, whatever. That's not what I think it means, and I think it's insanely overdramatic to use in this context, but fuck it, whatever.

Re: Being Pro-Censorship

[blitzwing]

I can tell this is about to become an argument about the precise definition of the word "banned", though.

Not from me. I'm not invested enough for that.

It's not prohibited and reading it isn't punished

You're assuming that. I have been told by teachers "don't bring that book back to school with you" about books I brought into the school from the public library. Schools do feel that they have a right to meddle in what students are reading in their free time (like on lunch break or after assignments are finished).