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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-27 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3036 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3036 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Big Bang Theory]


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[Jamie Oliver]


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[Jed and Leo, The West Wing]


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[Shipwrecked Comedy (YouTube)]


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[Conan O'Brien]


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[Star Trek]


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[Regular Show]


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[Anne of Green Gables]


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[Tintin]


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[Ciel nosurge]


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[Angel]


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[Dragon Age]


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(Joann Fletcher)


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15. http://i.imgur.com/xEVbfF2.png
[John Ridley, cut on request for blatant racial slurs and stuff]













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(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard the phrase "new black" used but I don't know enough about it to say whether it applies in this context.

UrbanDictionary says:

New Black
Term coined by Will Pharrell during an Oprah interview. Mostly used in online communities, like Tumblr. New Black meaning, black people who do not believe in racism and/or do not blame white people for racism, don't hold racism accountable for any troubles in their lives.

Many jokes about New Blacks include comparing them to upper-class white people.
"If he says he dislikes black people, does he also mean new black?"
lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
black people who do not believe in racism

Well, there's female MRAs and g0ys, why wouldn't there be these folks too? Still, as someone who was raised in Texas, I can not FATHOM the idea of people not being aware that racism exists.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-28 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
g0ys

Wow, I learned something today.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. O_o
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-28 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
If you want more, I mocked them a LOT of times. I have a whole fucking SECTION devoted to them and their ilk in my MSTs page, and put them on weepingcock way back in the day.

Their porn is as godawful as their politics.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-28 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
The Butt Phuck Tyranny. It's like a bad 70's sci-fi novel plot. As amusing as that is, I'd kind of like to read some serious meta on them. How popular is their movement? Who founded it? That sort of thing.
lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)

I have spent FAR too many brain cells on these people

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-28 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, here is what little I know about the g0ys. I would source, except the LJ that originally hosted that shit got deleted and purged, and I can't find citations in non-locked sites. I'm relying on my own recollection and this comment which linked to the original source before it got deleted.

Okay, so at some point, g0ys were affiliated with the Cockrub Warriors, who are also militant frottists but who I have slightly more respect for. Bill Weintraub runs the Warriors site, and he actually seems to have done some legitimate activism. He also survived the AIDS epidemic, which explains his thing about buttsex.

Weintraub and the g0y dude eventually had a falling out. According to Weintraub, this was on account of the g0ys dude's sleazy merchandising practices and adoration of the closet. See, the g0y dude is deeply closeted and specifically speaks of "discretion" as a value. He doesn't believe in gay rights at all; he thinks faggots should just shut the fuck up and stop acting so fucking effeminate. (And I won't even go into how he feels about trans people.)

I get the sense that the g0y dude does not have the AIDS trauma Weintraub does. Either he was so young he missed it, or he was so closeted and isolated that it passed him by. (Which wouldn't surprise me; whois.net claims the registering address for g0ys.org is in a small city in Arizona.)

From what I can see, the g0ys aren't that popular--and why would they be? They ridicule and deride all people who don't subscribe to their extremely strict views of gender and appropriate sexual behavior. They're homophobic, transphobic, and believe that since gay people think that's shitty, they're DOUBLY oppressed.

The only people I've seen who ID as g0ys tend to be young, insecure, and think that being closeted is a sign of their nobility and decency. I personally believe they're deeply conflicted about their own masculinity, and use the g0y label as a way to reassure themselves that they aren't like THOSE faggots.

--Rogan
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Re: I have spent FAR too many brain cells on these people

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-28 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for writing that up, that was interesting.
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Re: I have spent FAR too many brain cells on these people

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-28 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
No prob. I've been snarking these folks since 2009; it's about time all that time I wasted on them because useful!

--Rogan
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Re: I have spent FAR too many brain cells on these people

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-04-28 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
"The only people I've seen who ID as g0ys tend to be young, insecure, and think that being closeted is a sign of their nobility and decency. I personally believe they're deeply conflicted about their own masculinity, and use the g0y label as a way to reassure themselves that they aren't like THOSE faggots."

I'm not sure whether you'd be familiar with this, but I'm suddenly reminded of Kanji from Persona 4, a deeply closeted delinquent who's repressed any hint of feminity in his behavior out of fear of being THAT kind of gay guy. He has to fight the embodiment of his fear and self-loathing, and it looks like this: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090614095932/megamitensei/images/6/66/P4-shadow-kanji-1-.jpg
Edited 2015-04-28 03:10 (UTC)
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Re: I have spent FAR too many brain cells on these people

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-28 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I do know Kanji! I've even written fic about him on request once or twice. And honestly, I can handle it from Kanji better because he's REALLY young, and because the whole point of his arc is him getting OVER it. (Also, at least from what I recall in the anime, he seems to mostly hate himself, rather than taking it out on other people so much.)

When I said g0ys slant young, I meant more like, college age, not fourteen. (Though I'm sure there's some of them in that age range too.)

--Rogan
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-04-28 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Also those gay dudes who actually wrote requesting the Supreme Court to find against gay marriage because it would hurt the legitimacy of their straight marriages.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-28 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
BISEXUALS HOW DO THEY WORK???? *eyeroll*

Seriously, people need to learn the difference between being attacked and being existed at.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-04-28 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
No, these dudes are gay, probably religious, don't believe in homosexuality, and want to stay married to their wives even though they aren't actually into them sexually. And they think other gay people marrying will somehow stop them from doing that.
lb_lee: Raige making a horrified face. (D:)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-28 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Man, what a marriage made in hell. Can't imagine THAT going wrong.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] were_lemur 2015-04-28 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
"Existed at" is a brilliant phrase and you should feel brilliant.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-28 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! Best way I can think of to describe that phenomenon, when, say, homophobes act like gays existing is comparable to straight people's lives being made actively worse. It's like, no dudes, that's YOU..

--Rogan
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2015-04-28 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Will Pharrell

Did someone confuse Pharrell Williams with Will Ferrel?