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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-27 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3036 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3036 ⌋

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15. http://i.imgur.com/xEVbfF2.png
[John Ridley, cut on request for blatant racial slurs and stuff]













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[personal profile] fscom 2015-04-27 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-27 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing to keep in mind about a lot of these people is that they're not merely prejudiced or, like, mainstream conservatives with nasty bits of bigotry they keep hidden. This is a concerted and coherent ideology, and racism is not accidental to it but a central and conscious part of it.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
whoa

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Please tell me that was from the sixties or something.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
2006, actually. I found it while looking for info on his new project with Marvel: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/john-ridley-developing-mystery-marvel-789605

To be fair, nine years is time enough to be embarrased by what you've said, but I've never heard him distance himself from it.

(Honestly, if he finally put out another sequel to Those Who Walk in Darkness, I'd still read it. Bad people can still be good writers.)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Has anyone ever reminded him of it for him to distance himself? Is it possible he's letting it lie there like everyone's embarrassing fanfiction from when they were 14? Can we hope

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen an astonishing number of suburban white male 20-somethings rant on about "niggers" like it was 1955 in the South. In like, 2000s-era. -_-

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
what's with the trend of wealthy black men completely shitting on other black people? (I remember seeing a couple of similar reports about different dudes over the past few months. I think one was a basketball player)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Charles Barkley.

In his defense, he's never claimed to be a role model.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Not-so-wealthy black men and women shit on other black people. That's how we get to "keepin' it real" and "acting white." It's a lot of crap that needs to stop on all ends. Black America doesn't have to be a hive mind but we have to be unified and supportive of one another.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this one of those precious, Chris Rock, "Those folks are niggers, We're upstanding black citizens," things?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-27 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I think so

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's actually worse than that. He namechecks Ayn Rand.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
dear god

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard the phrase "new black" used but I don't know enough about it to say whether it applies in this context.

UrbanDictionary says:

New Black
Term coined by Will Pharrell during an Oprah interview. Mostly used in online communities, like Tumblr. New Black meaning, black people who do not believe in racism and/or do not blame white people for racism, don't hold racism accountable for any troubles in their lives.

Many jokes about New Blacks include comparing them to upper-class white people.
"If he says he dislikes black people, does he also mean new black?"
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
black people who do not believe in racism

Well, there's female MRAs and g0ys, why wouldn't there be these folks too? Still, as someone who was raised in Texas, I can not FATHOM the idea of people not being aware that racism exists.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-28 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
g0ys

Wow, I learned something today.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. O_o

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Also those gay dudes who actually wrote requesting the Supreme Court to find against gay marriage because it would hurt the legitimacy of their straight marriages.

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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2015-04-28 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Will Pharrell

Did someone confuse Pharrell Williams with Will Ferrel?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Shorter secret: You mean half-heartedly endorsed reforms aren't enough to overcome centuries of racism and prejudice?! What is wrong with you people?!

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Image: a racist screed by John Ridley, where he uses the n-word several times

Text: I’m starting to think I’m a really bad judge of which authors are and aren’t total shitbags.

(Same OP as the John C. Wright secret! I liked Orson Scott Card, too!)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a162/esq1206blackessay-108/

I think we need to read this so there's some context. Ridley's use of the N-word is bombastic and ugly. This isn't even Chris Rock's use of it. However, while I don't agree with what Mr. Wright is saying, he makes some valid points. All of which make his use of that word even more damning because it's hard to hear him over that damn, disgusting word.

Long story short: Ridley is talking about black people who do not try to advance themselves, who revel in the culture of "Keepin' it real" and tell others to "Stop Snitching." These people are real and they do hold all of us back. But they really are a minority within a minority and they aren't near as large or as powerful as he claims.

I'm not a conservative so I find him quite disagreeable and, dare I say it, on the edge of Uncle Tom Foolery, but I think too many of you are writing him off just because he used the N-word. You don't have to agree with what he said and I fully welcome you disparaging how he said it, but he has valid things to say.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, this is why I'd dismiss him: http://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/NEWS/jimcrow/essays/ridley/index.htm