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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-30 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #3039 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL... I just think conspiracy theorists are kind of loony. The whole "did Shakespeare really exist/write those plays?" theory isn't quite as bad as people who think the moon landing is fake, but they're not all there, either.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I like the conspiracy theorists who think Shakespeare wrote the Bible much better.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
... translated? Or are there actually people who believe Shakespeare wrote the Bible? (jokes about Shakespeare being a god aside)
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-01 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
...hahaha what?

Okay, slight tangent, honestly I think I'd be really entertained by reading certain parts of the Bible written in Shakespeare's style. Someone who is good at this should make this happen.
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
God I hate anti-Stratfordians... Every single theory I've heard from them is based in classism and a heavy dose of just flat out wrong information.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
You beat me to it.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2015-05-01 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
The ironic thing is, they quite often then go on to claim elitism when you point to actual experts who refute their uneducated hypotheses.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I picked up Joseph Sobran's Alias Shakespeare and I don't think I had got halfway through the introduction (where he ever so charmingly calls Shakespeare's authorship an "egalitarian myth) before I wanted to throw the book across the room. OFC he was a fucking paleocon (and I don't mean he only ate meat and roots), so I shouldn't have been surprised.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-04 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Ditto. I was so annoyed when I found out the makers of that awful Anonymous movie were trying to sell a "curriculum" to schools.
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-04-30 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
They are idiots. I'm not sure it matters whether they're True Shakespeare Fans or not.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
lol i see what u did there

(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I was coming down here to say this lol

(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
We I think that Shakespeare was the lead author on most of them, but I think like most scriptwriters he work-shopped his scripts ruthlessly with a select few friends and colleagues and integrated their ideas and propositions when they worked, and dropped some of his stuff when he was told that it didn't work.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
He was a working producer. He had a theatre company, and it's possible that his name is on the work as the leader of the company and of their writing team. I don't mean to say that he didn't actually write most of it, either. Look at the sonnets, those are presumably fully his own work.

That's why anti-Stratfordianism seems so bizarre to me. That level of output is not something I see Francis Bacon doing in his spare time, and that level of consistent quality is not something I see someone coming up with writing away from the stage and that life.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I went to a lecture recently on Shakespeare as a collaborator. According to the lecturer, scholars are thinking some of his plays were collaborations, and that he collaborated on other people's plays as well (because analyzing boring things like verb and adjective usage you can see his style vs other styles). Playwright would have had to have been a super social and involved career.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-04 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
We pretty much know that about some plays, or as close to "knowing" as that kind of academia gets. Like Pericles.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
It's rooted in the idea that someone from Shakespeare's background couldn't write something so grand.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Right. And that idea is pretty dumb.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2015-05-01 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I just think they're kind of historically ignorant

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Historically ignorant AND convinced of their own superiority to the ignorant masses. The best kind of ignorance.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Image: drawing of William Shakespeare

Text: If you think the plays of Shakespeare weren’t really written by Shakespeare I don’t think you’re a Real Shakespeare Fan

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
In 500 year's time when Michael Bay films are regarded as high-culture, and not populist tosh to put bums on seats, people will start insisting that Michael Bay was really Stephen Fry in disguise. I mean, we've never seen them together...

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
That'd make me like Michael Bay a lot better.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll just defer to Mark Twain:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2431/2431-h/2431-h.htm