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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-30 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #3039 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3039 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Because more often than not it's people that aren't Jewish writing something they know nothing about, usually for the specific purpose of assaulting a character with "period-typical anti-semitism". It's fetishization at its highest, and it's insulting.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I can see how poorly-executed ones would be annoying. But the OP doesn't say any of that, it just has "Jewish Bucky".

Are you opposed to headcanons in general where the writer doesn't have experience with the thing that they're writing about? Are you opposed to, for instance, non-POC writers writing POC characters? or what's special about this scenario?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I think the issues is that very often people who write Bucky as "Jewish" don't care about depicting Jewish religion/life at all. Instead, it's just an excuse to have people in the story be mean to him so he can angst.

And I think that's where people find it insulting.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

It's the "period-typical anti-semitism" tag that sends up all the red flags for me. It reads as easy whump, rather than any sort of well-thought-out headcanon.

And of course not, unless it's the same issue: writing/headcanoning a character as POC in order to subject them to racism for easy angst. And unfortunately, that makes up a large chunk of "racebent" fic.

I also take issue with non-POC writers headcanoning characters as POC for no other reason than the buttpats that it entails. There's rarely any thought or reasoning behind it, much less any genuine research, it's just "they're [insert ethnicity here] now, and if you argue with me you're racist."

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Well, they've backed themselves into a corner where any insufficiently oppressed characters are "literal shit" or whatever, but here they are with yet another crush on yet another pretty white boy. Better layer on some quick oppressions before the cognitive dissonance gets you!

(Anonymous) 2015-05-01 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
Tumblr in a nutshell.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Except that tag could be for, and I've used it for, period typical antisemitic terminology and views (not derogatory, just old fashioned terms) canonically held by the main character about minor characters, not for "easy whump" - in fact it was because a Jewish reader asked me to tag it. So backbuttoning for the tag alone is daft.