[ SECRET POST #3040 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3040 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Once Upon a Time]


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02.
[Tree of Savior]


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03.
[Disturbed's 'Indestructible']


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04.
[Whitechapel]


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05.


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06.
[Bill Bailey]


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07.
[Total War: Warhammer]


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08.


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09.
[Morph]


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10.
[Harry Potter]


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11.
[FFXIV, RuPaul's Drag Race]


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12.
[Monstrous Regiment by Terry Pratchett]


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13. [SPOILERS for Nightcrawler, Gone Girl]



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14. [SPOILERS for Devil Survivor]



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15. [SPOILERS for Age of Ultron]



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16. [SPOILERS for Broadchurch]



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17. [WARNING for incest, abuse, suicide, and probably necrophilia]

[Sankarea]


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18. [WARNING for abuse]

[Steven Universe]










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #434.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

One possible rape in what, forty books? Wow, how awful. Especially when the book in question is about war. Someone's really trying to get offended.

[(Anonymous)]

So just one little rape is OK? Fuck. you.

[dreemyweird]

I can't believe someone actually thinks that depicting rape in fiction is inherently bad

[(Anonymous)]

da

It becomes a problem when it's used in fantasy against main female characters for shock value and an excuse to feel sorry and protective for the female. Notice how even in times of war, imprisonment and oppression, it never happens to men.

[(Anonymous)]

That's definitely a problem, but I think it's a little extreme to go from critiquing that to, "no characters can ever be raped, and if one is, then an author's entire body of work must be tossed out."

[blitzwing]

It [rape in fiction] becomes a problem when it's used in fantasy against main female characters for shock value and an excuse to feel sorry and protective for the female. Notice how even in times of war, imprisonment and oppression, it never happens to men.

Never? Because I can think of several examples just off the top of my head. Outlander probably being the best known. Deliverance is infamous for that m/m rape scene. There are multiple examples of men being victims of rape or threatened with rape in the Dark Tower series. Men do get raped in fiction.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, but it's still pretty rare. One or two movies that depict male rape doesn't make up for the masses amount of rape lots of female characters are put through.

[blitzwing]

I really don't know if it's rare, or what the actual level of difference is in the amount of male or female rape portrayed in the media, but I do agree that females are more often portrayed as rape victims than males.

[(Anonymous)]

Deliverance is so infamous because it's one of the rare movies that does have male rape. It's still in the vast, vast minority.

[blitzwing]

There's more to it than that. It's not famous because of it's rarity (there are after all other movies with male rape, and there were ones that showed male rape victims before Deliverance).

The setting and the setup served to make it more brutal and notorious. You watch something like American History X (or even the Shawshank Redemption) that's set in a prison and you're not surprised to see male-on-male sexual assault or rape. You watch a movie about 4 guys camping...different story.

It's still in the vast, vast minority.

I really don't watch movies much, so I have no idea about film. With Fiction as far as literature it's a different kettle of fish. A lot of the male-rapist-female-victim rape written in romance novels was written for women, by women: not to make the book gritty or realistic.

Even so it would be difficult to judge how rare one is versus the other: there's so many books and if I read 1000 books and you read 1000 books, we might not even have a single read book in common. What I'm saying is I'm not going to argue the rarity or lack of rarity because while I have read a fair amount of male-victim rapes in fiction, it could very well be that my stylistic, genre, or trope preferences are resulting in a higher than average number.

I will however argue against those who state: "Rape is ~~*~realism~~(except we never include male rape in our fantasy series but shhh)"

or

"Notice how even in times of war, imprisonment and oppression, it [rape in fiction] never happens to men." [emphasis mine]

Because I have personal experiences that negate absolute statements that male rape in fiction never happens.

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of the male-rapist-female-victim rape written in romance novels was written for women, by women: not to make the book gritty or realistic.

And most romance novels are sexist drivel, news at 11. It's either for drama (oh no a bad man raped me and now use your healing cock on me, Sir Hero) or not acknowledged to be rape ("No! No! Stop!" and then she secretly likes it).

[(Anonymous)]

So it's never, ever okay to mention rape in fiction?

[arcadiaego]

Where in the book does Pratchett say the rape is ok? The Disc is a mirror of worlds and the books are explorations and subversions of existing tropes. Rape is sadly something that happens in the real world and that is part of the background of the themes that the book is exploring. That's not the same as having a fantasy world where female characters have very little agency other than to be used and abused by men and where there is no larger point to be made than 'people in the past raped women all the time' (like in say Game of Thrones or Outlander).