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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-02 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3041 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3041 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 085 secrets from Secret Submission Post #435.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure it's that simple. i suspect there's a lot of different people causing problems in a lot of different ways. Some people were spoiling things to piss people off, some people were rules layering to piss people off, but that doesn't mean it was the same people. And while this person might be rules layering, there definitely were people who were genuinely in favor of any of those rules.

I don't think this is a pro vs anti thing, really. It's at least a little more complicated. And I'm not sure if getting rid of all the rules is a good solution - although I do think that Case has been maybe a bit heavy handed, and that a thread like number 6 today whose main purpose seemed to be goofing off might not need to be froze. But like, on some level, having spoiler warnings is not a bad thing, I don't think. Having a norm about triggers isn't a bad thing. It's just a matter of figuring out how to do it well. But I really do want to hear what you think on that.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Just about every thread that has been frozen over the last six months did not need to be. Especially the ones where two people are goofily ttrolling the other and both parties knew it and were clearly having fun. Then it got fucking frozen because some little bitch went and got it shut down to spread the misery. Case really needs to stop interfering so much in GC. Should just post the secrets and then leave it be after that.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I guess what I'd say is - how are you so sure when it's two parties goofing and trolling each other, and when it's not? I'm not sure Case is perfect at that and there are probably some threads that could have been left, but I kind of doubt that you're perfect at it either. I think there have been threads that have gotten legitimately heated with personal insults. Are you against Case freezing those? Why?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. it is better to err on the side of caution and assume people are having fun than to err on the side shutting things down precipitously.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well, is there any point at which you'd want a thread to get shut down?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
LIBERTARIANISMMMMM!

DON'T TREAD ON ME FOO!

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, when it enters the realm of doxxing, linking to kiddie porn, or encouragement of religion. Short of that, let it roll.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Encouragement of religion? What? You mean evangelizing or something else?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Well I respect your views (although the third of your conditions makes me somewhat doubt their seriousness). That said I don't think most people here agree with you and I don't think it would improve the comm

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
But nonny don't you see it doesn't matter what anyone else wants? This anon wants, NEEDS things to be their way, and gosh, they're just so important and special and know better than everybody else.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
So you think it is appropriate that religious cults can use this comm to recruit? We've seen in the last few weeks some Scientology dudes try to sweep people up. There really ought to be a firm ban on encouraging any sort of religious talk, and of course doxxing and kiddie porn speak for themselves as far as thread shutdowns go. ANything short of that, and let it roll.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
We've seen in the last few weeks some Scientology dudes try to sweep people up

wait, what
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-05-03 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I don't agree. Case froze several threads that were just personal attacks on me. They certainly didn't contribute to the post or any conversation. I didn't report them to case, but someone did, and if it was rule-lawyering!nonny I can only give them my thanks.

Especially the ones where two people are goofily ttrolling the other and both parties knew it and were clearly having fun.

Ignoring the fact that you have no way of telling when two people are trolling each other or not...Everyone else has to see the threads too, and nasty personal attacks aren't pleasant to witness even as a bystander.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
IDK, it's always pretty pleasant to watch anyone take you down a peg or three.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-05-03 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
It'll be pleasant when it happens. I have yet to see it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, you're cute. :)
blitzwing: ([magi] aladdin)

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-05-03 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks :)

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
"I have yet to see it."

That sums you up perfectly.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-05-03 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I know right? I'm just terrible. /sigh/
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[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-05-03 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Not really? Case only freezes them when they turn malicious or take up too much space, especially if they turn personal.

But *obvious* goofing off tends to get a pass, even if another anon reports it.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Case jumps the gun on malicious and presumes bad faith too often. He needs to back off, and just ignore the thread silencers like the OP who purposefully post shit in order to get a thread frozen or deleted. Even if that means a few stupid death threats. They are meaningless on the internet anyway.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You need to back off, and just ignore that some threads are frozen or deleted. They're all meaningless on the internet anyway.

Why don't you go somewhere that will make you happy - that's assuming that such a place actually exists.