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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-02 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3041 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3041 ⌋

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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2015-05-03 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's not that they say "don't write kinks." It's that they search out fics with kinks, or people who mention they write or even just like to read kinky fics, and they often respond with abuse and threats. I would point out as an example how anytime the subject of liking noncon fics comes up in a secret here, there is always at least one person (sometimes more) saying that anyone who writes or likes noncon should die in a fire, commit suicide, or sometimes more detailed examples of how that person should die horribly.

I'm not sure I would say fandom as a whole is anti-kink, but there is a distinct vocal minority who are abusive and toxic, and they are loud enough to seem like there are more of them than there actually are. It's kinda like the Westboro Baptist Church, in a way. They do nasty things to provoke a reaction, then portray the other person as being the bad guy for having a reaction, and often doing so under the guise of social justice; then because they provoked a reaction, they feel completely justified in doing things to further hurt people. Unlike the WBC, there aren't lawsuits involved, but the harassment, abuse, and threats (sometimes of doxxing; there have been instances where fic writers have been doxxed and had people calling their workplace to try to get them fired for writing "unacceptable" kinks) are most certainly real.

It has a chilling effect on certain areas of fandom, because people see this going on and worry that if they post their own fics or even admit to liking fics with certain kinks (dub/noncon seem to be the most frequent magnet for this, but I'm sure there are others), they'll be next. It's a problem, but it's easy to miss because it really is a minority pulling this shit.

I wish it were only people asking for trigger warnings; that's fine. What this minority are doing is not.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

This, basically. Dubcon/noncon and underage are the ones most frequently targeted, but I've also seen people going after BDSM in general and femsub in particular. Often while kinking on some pretty skeevy and disturbing things themselves, but it's OK because they're doing it the "right" way.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of the time, the stuff they're into is even skeevier. And then they're perplexed when that's painted out to them, and they come up with the most bizarre, unconvincing arguments as to why it's okay when they did it. But self-awareness was never their strong point.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Agree