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⌈ Secret Post #3044 ⌋

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[Rosemary & Thyme]

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[Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken]

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[A Game of Thrones, Jon Snow]

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(Overlord 1)

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[Asterix the Gaul]

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[Repo! The Genetic Opera / Marvel's Agents of SHIELD]

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[Panic! at the Disco]

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[Free! Iwatobi Swim Club]

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[Harry Potter]

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[Darren Criss in Hedwig and the Angry Inch]

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12. [ SPOILER WARNING for Downton Abbey ]

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[Steven Universe]

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His reasons sound stupid and either way your circumstances never excuse you behavior, so.

Unless you're a muslim.

well, that came out of nowhere

Or black...

Or rich. It's most often the rich white guys who get away with the worst shit, let's be honest now.

Rich black guys get away with shit just as much. No matter how much they beat their exes or raped women.

Or tortured animals.

Rich anyone does, men or women.

Money is the one thing that overrides everything else.

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LOLOL

LOL

"...either way your circumstances never excuse you behavior, so."

Let's say you're right and take a little test. It's 1 am and you're walking home along a quiet country road with few cars passing by. It's been a long day at work, but you're happy because you just got paid and are carrying $200 in your pocket. Now all you want to do is get home, but it's a long walk and you're very tired. A small but painful blister is forming on your left heel and... it's starting to rain.

You suddenly become aware of a vehicle coming up slowly behind you, so you move a little onto the shoulder to make sure they have plenty of room to pass. It's a mid-size passenger van with tinted windows and curiously enough, the back doors are fastened with a bicycle chain and a very sturdy lock. But what's this? The van is slowing down even more so that it idles alongside you and the window rolls down. Inside is a cadaverously pale man with greasy hair who smells like he hasn't bathed in a week, wearing a filthy t-shirt and jeans. Tattooed on his bicep is a band of swastikas. Suspiciously twitchy, he looks you up and down like a piece of meat and leers at you through the window. He inhales deeply, as if he can smell you from where you stand.

"You want a ride home?"

What's your answer? Are you going to do the polite, open minded thing and accept his gracious offer? Or will you perhaps use what you observe of this man, his vehicle and his possible motives and make a judgement call that says no, you won't be getting into his scary ass van tonight if you can help it so you're going to run like hell?

Think carefully and remember that according to you, circumstances don't excuse behavior.

"your circumstances never excuse you behavior"

Congrats on topping the list of the most frighteningly stupid things I've ever seen someone say on F!S.

"Waaah my dad never hugged me so it totally excuses me being shitty to people!"

Congrats for finding one example where circumstances don't excuse behavior. Newsflash: it doesn't apply to every single situation everywhere, which most people understand if they're reasonably intelligent.

So then it's your view that it was wrong to fight the Nazis in World War 2.

Jesus Christ, Godwin's law?

I'm not comparing them to Nazis or calling them Nazis in any way.

I'm taking their argument to its logical (albeit ridiculous) conclusion.

If circumstances are not relevant factors in judging behavior, then either it is always right to kill people, or it is always wrong to kill people.

If it is always wrong to kill people, then it is wrong to fight the Nazis in WW2.

It's kind of remarkable, in a way

Ah, one of the "black people burning down their city are justified!"

It's never justifiable.

Enlighten us then, oh paragon of intelligence.

nayrt - You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that there are some situations where circumstances are a valid excuse for certain types of behavior that might otherwise be considered bad. Yelling "fire!" in a crowded building is a classic example. If the building isn't on fire, you're a jackass. But if it is, those circumstances make it a-okay to yell "fire!"

See? That didn't require Stephen Hawking levels of smarts, it just required you to not be a dumbass.

Right. That's utterly comparable to Jon Snow's circumstances and behavior!

The argument is against the statement "your circumstances never excuse you behavior", which is ridiculous. There are some situations where your circumstances do excuse your behaviour. Whether Jon's circumstances excuse HIS behaviour is a different debate than whether circumstances EVER excuse behaviour.

The problem is that clearly what they meant was something like "Poverty or a poor upbringing don't justify crime and violence" but instead they made a different statement that happened to be completely ridiculous and totally indefensible