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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-06 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3045 ]


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[personal profile] ill_omened 2015-05-06 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolute morality brah.

You're right the basis for that and how we achieve it becomes complicated, but the sole alternative is nihilism.

We could discuss the foundation for that morality, but you would find few people who would disagree with the standard of some functional version of utilitarianism and individual freedom, and by rejecting this standard it becomes impossible to hold any sort of moral conversation without first going into incredible depth on founding principles.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-06 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
i'd say two things

first, while people might agree in principle on some functional moral code, there's clearly also huge and widespread disagreement on the practical implications of that, and so it behooves us to be more clear about what moral stances we're taking and to take these arguments seriously

second, i'm fine with it being a question of absolute morality! i'm down as fuck with that. but, again, stop fucking talking about tolerance and intolerance when what you really mean is that bigotry is intrinsically morally wrong.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2015-05-06 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Well no, because it's an expression of these two truths.

As difficult as conditional statements can be, it's a simple argument of if it is not harmful (within certain criteria) than tolerance states that it's okay.

The attempt to differentiate the two doesn't make any sort of substantial point.