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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-06 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3045 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-05-06 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it is an issue of intolerance.

By tolerating that practice, you are expressing intolerance towards the rights of those boys.

The violation of their rights makes the tolerance of their sexual abuse INTOLERANT overall because it's such an egregious infraction.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-06 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
i feel like i'm in an abbot and costello routine

by tolerating that practice, you're not expressing intolerance; you're condoning something cruel and awful and morally wrong being done to them. its wrongness has nothing to do with our tolerance of the boys itself.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-06 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Intolerance is a form of bigotry.

Tolerating the violation of a person's rights is a form of intolerance towards that person.

For example, you are being intolerant towards women if women can't vote and you tolerate those leading a campaign against their right to vote.

This is why "tolerance" of intolerance is never justified. Because the violation of rights makes the balance of your actions INTOLERANT on the whole.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-06 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
but why is it necessary to enter the conversation into a question of tolerance and intolerance in the first place? why can't we just say that bigotry is wrong and if you're a bigot, fuck off, and tell OP to go to blazes for being a bigot?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-06 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Because intolerance is a form of bigotry.

And, yes, you may be expressing intolerance by not tolerating someone's intolerant views.

But the overall effect of your actions IS tolerance because you don't support the greater form of bigotry -- that of taking away rights.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-07 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
You have expressed exactly what I've been trying to say for the longest time but couldn't do properly because English isn't my mother tongue.

If bigotry has more to do with iduviduism, capitalism, and survival of the fittest, then tolerance is more socialist in nature and with everything in life having the natural inclination to escelate into absurdity, expect to have our government become a lot more like Communist Russia than you will like to admit.

First of all, in many ways, it'll give us minorities a breather and that's great. But an atmosphere of socialist tolerance is much more artificial than that of natural 'dog eat dog' and the one thing that will suffer is art.

Collosal efforts will be required to keep people's natural competivness in check and so free speech will have to go.

Art will have to be geared toward promoting messages of tolerance, which will become art's #1 priority. Individual expression will HAVE to include the collective, and of course ignore all the depth of the human condition.

Art will become fake and soulless because there will still be injustice in the world but to admit to it would be political suicide- it will show a crack in complete tolerance and the dissolving of the self for the common good and so art will grow more and more censored to any objecting ' intolerant' views.