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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-13 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3052 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3050 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Falcon Densetsu/F-Zero GP Legends]


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(Stephen Paul Manderson aka Professor Green, Never Mind the Buzzcocks)


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[Elysium]


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[Jeremy Renner]















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Re: Double standards

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
This one's a fandom double standard:

I hate how a female character being black automatically means you can't criticize how her romance is written.

Example:

I dislike how Natasha/Bruce and Uhura/Spock were written

They have the same issues for me:

1. They both come out of nowhere with no real build-up
2. Both female characters don't get a plotline of their own and instead end up subsumed in the male's story

With Natasha, LOTS of people will agree with me. Yet if I present the same argument for Uhura, I get accused of being racist and not wanting her near my "white fave."

I'm not saying black women shouldn't enjoy the romance (heck, anyone can -- love what you love) and I get that the historical context is different for black and white women but...

Uhura being black doesn't make the romance better written. Being black doesn't automatically make a character more interesting, especially in a setting like Star Trek which takes place in a post-racial world so they can't even make an interesting plotline from it (for example, by comparing the discrimination Spock faces to that Uhura would face).
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Re: Double standards

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2015-05-14 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind #1, but yeah, in Uhura's case she's clearly there for Spock and very little of it is about her.

Natasha, if you take the movies she's actually been in, gets a bit more character development then Bruce though, so not sure I'm with you on that one (she still should get her own movie tho)

Re: Double standards

(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I mean in the context of Age of Ultron.

I agree that outside that film, Natasha's been developed more. But Age of Ultron focuses on Bruce's issues with the Hulk.

They could have made their story Natasha-centric (for example by having Bruce help her cope with the public turning against her after finding out about her past) but they didn't -- instead they made it all about Bruce. Even when she tells him about her sterilization, it's in the context of her reassuring him rather than developing a plotline of her own. That's what I take issue with.