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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-17 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3056 ]


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kaijinscendre: (bilbo)

Re: What fictional world is your escapist fantasy?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-05-17 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
To escape stress? Probably the Shire from LOTR. Pretty, nice weather, no adventures, lots of food.

Re: What fictional world is your escapist fantasy?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Lot of hard rural labor though. Unless you are a middle class monyed and male hobbit.

Re: What fictional world is your escapist fantasy?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
casual LOTR fan - did Bilbo and Frodo work, or were they just monied?

I'll take "family fortune, sit reading in a field and eating delicious hobbit food all day" type of hobbit, if it is an option.

Re: What fictional world is your escapist fantasy?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
They're very explicitly propertied.

I mean, they have a named country house (Bag End). It's not like Tolkien was hiding the social class to which they belonged.

Re: What fictional world is your escapist fantasy?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-18 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I thought there was no word more annoying than "monied" and then I saw "propertied." Urgh. Just say someone is rich or owns property.

Re: What fictional world is your escapist fantasy?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Bilbo was modestly moneyed, until he came home with a huge shit ton of money. From there on he was rich, and so was Frodo.

Most of us would be Samwise and Gaffer, if we were lucky.

Re: What fictional world is your escapist fantasy?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-18 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Bilbo's father, Bungo, was wealthy enough that he could marry a Took, although the Tooks were richer and Bag End was partly built with Belladonna's money. The Old Took wouldn't have let Belladonna marry a hobbit of modest means, even if he was eminently respectable.

I mean, I can see the Old Took having the same conversation with Bungo that my maternal grandfather had with my dad: "Do you think you can afford her?" And Bungo evidently thought he could.
kaijinscendre: (Default)

Re: What fictional world is your escapist fantasy?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-05-17 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but not all the time. I will just escape there on holidays.

Re: What fictional world is your escapist fantasy?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
That's straight up part of the fantasy, I think. Well, for the most part. Relatively little manual labor and lots of rest and abundance for the peasant hobbits, and an idyllic existence for the middle class ones.

But, I mean, it's literally merrie olde England. You hardly even need to point out those features of it; it comes politicized. But from an escapist fantasy point of view, the point is not whether or not merrie England or squirearchy England or deep England were as just or fair as they were made out; the point of the Shire is that it actually is as pleasant and idyllic as those places were made out to be.