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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-17 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3056 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3056 ⌋

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Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
So - just to be clear here - your argument is that, for it to be feminist, they would have needed to add a bunch of dudes getting raped?

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Or less women getting raped. I'd prefer less women getting raped, but if it comes down to it, I'll take my equality however I can get it.

And to be fair to me, that was really only one of my arguments.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I know, it was just an argument that amused me

not because it's necessarily wrong

it's just funny

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
So....feminist movies need men to be raped. uh huh...

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Found the MRA everyone, Games over, I win, or we all lose, whatever, MRA has been found.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
you could just point out that their argument is unfair, instead of jumping to the MRA accusation

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I think devaluing their character does more to show their opinion to be bullshit than actually arguing with a bullshit opinion.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
But down that road lies madness.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
And arguing with bullshit opinions leads to mental health?
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Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2015-05-17 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
And this is why internet arguments are always so stupid. Either because of laziness or inability, this is always what it trends to.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
No, not MRA. Just making fun of the fact that the movie isn't feminist enough because some guys were not raped. That is stupid fucking logic.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Their argument is more that there's too much rape of women, and any arguments that justify it would apply equally to men, which makes it hard to take those arguments seriously.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
But there isn't even any, it is just implied. And considering how fucked up that world is (a lot of people are forced to do things), it is ENTIRELY plausible that would happen. What other reason would they keep a bunch of women locked up?

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
But as OP of this subthread points out, if it's plausible that there would be rape of women, it's 100% equally plausible there'd be rape of men. But that side of things isn't even implied.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-18 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
The women are only being raped in order to make babies. Literally only one man (Joe) is raping them, the rest of the time they wear chastity belts and the religious nutjobs are ordered to never touch them.

It is not 100% plausible for the people of the city to use men in the same way as the women because they cannot get babies (and milk, giant trade in milk) from men.

Similarly, the bg rape of furiosa - cut from the movie thankfully - stopped when it was found out she was infertile so they found another use for her - turns out she's great at driving and killing, so that became her job. If she was O- she'd be a blood bag. If she was old and disabled she'd probably be ditched with the other beggers. Or put to work turning the wheels.

All the trafficking of all the people in this movie was around the "best benefit" that could be get out of them.

Now if the men could get pregnant from rape or become universal donors, i'm sure it would have been implied.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
You have it backwards. MRAs are the ones who, reliably, want to make things WORSE for the gender they perceive as having an advantage. Too few men's shelters? CLOSE DOWN WOMEN'S SHELTERS. Thus, the argument AYRT was arguing AGAINST was closer to an MRA position, just genderswapped.

Re: IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD IS MAD MAX FEMINIST?!? - TW Likley rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Now you're just trolling. Lucky for you it's fandomsecrets, and they'll take your bait, as obvious as it is.